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Impeachment hearings wind down

by Harvest Prude
Posted 11/21/19, 11:49 am

WASHINGTON—Lawmakers are closing out a week of investigative hearings into President Donald Trump’s dealings with Ukraine. Fiona Hill, a former National Security Council director for Russia, and David Holmes, a State Department official at the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine, testified Thursday before the House Intelligence Committee. Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., said Democrats would decide “in the coming days” on the next steps for the impeachment inquiry after hearing from a dozen witnesses.

What did Thursday’s witnesses say? Hill cautioned lawmakers against advancing a theory that Ukraine, rather than Russia, had interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, calling such an effort “politically driven falsehoods that so clearly advance Russian interests.” Holmes testified that he had lunch with U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland once and overheard Trump asking on the phone about “investigations” from Ukraine. Sondland reportedly replied that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky would “do anything you ask him to.”

Dig deeper: Read Hill’s and Holmes’ opening statements. Plus, listen to Thursday’s edition of The World and Everything In It for a recap of Sondland’s testimony on Wednesday.

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Harvest Prude

Harvest is a reporter for WORLD based in Washington, D.C.

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    Posted: Thu, 11/21/2019 03:44 pm

    Zelensky would “do anything you ask him to."

    That right there is evidence that Trump is guilty of something. And the fact that they had lunch talking about it in a public place where no one could hear them. You know. Hey.

    So what Schiff's basement meeting was all about was discussing what they each heard and getting all their stories straight. And I do mean STORIES.

  •  West Coast Gramma's picture
    West Coast Gramma
    Posted: Thu, 11/21/2019 08:10 pm

    Are you unaware that Republicans were present in those "basement" meetings and that they had the right of full participation, including calling their own witnesses and cross examining all witnesses?

    Posted: Thu, 11/21/2019 03:43 pm

    This whole thing goes to show that anyone who is NOT a Dem. should FIRE ALL of the staff from the previous admin and have someone you can trust hire new people. And use a lie detector test, not administered by a supposed non-partisan FBI person. 

    I feel bad for Trump because he thinks people like him, but they are there explicitly to spy on him for the left. 

    Don't give up Trump, we're pulling for you to get thru the Dem. swamp. Not an easy thing to do.

  •  West Coast Gramma's picture
    West Coast Gramma
    Posted: Thu, 11/21/2019 08:16 pm

    There wouldn't be any staff if Trumped replaced everyone--he still hasn't filled many partisan positions, let alone the career nonpartisan positions. When these career, highly professional people say they are nonpartisan and that they joined the Foreign Service because they love America, I believe them, and I see no reason to doubt their integrity. They are after all speaking under oath. The value of our Constitution and the Institution of our American governmental system far exceeds any one president no matter the party. Some things reach higher than the presidency, and that is the integrity of the American system of government itself. That is what is at stake here.

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    West Coast Gramma
    Posted: Thu, 11/21/2019 08:17 pm

    Nice reporting, Harvest.

  • OldMike
    Posted: Fri, 11/22/2019 08:11 pm

    So what’s the next act in this circus?

    Once the investigations and testimony are complete, the next step would be the vote, whether or not to actually charge President Trump with “Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors,” which are the Constitutional grounds for removal of the President from office. A vote to approve the charges, called “articles of impeachment” or an impeachment resolution, requires a simple majority of the House to pass. 

    On its face, the vote looks like a slam-dunk for the Democrats. They do, after all, have a majority in the House. However, I’m not so sure it will happen. 

    There are polls saying the majority of Americans favor President Trump’s impeachment; there are also polls saying a majority of Americans oppose impeachment. My viewpoint is that those polls saying We the People are in favor of tossing the President out have been mostly conducted or commissioned by media who have long been against the President. In other words, they do have a dog in this hunt. They are far from unbiased, and thus the polls have been designed to reflect what those media want, and influence the American People towards what those media want. 

    So it might be, we need to ask which polls the Democrats will choose to believe. All politicians are influenced by polls, and the Democrats notably so. 

    So now (drumroll please) it is time for another OldMike Fearless Prediction:   

    The Democrats on the whole are not tremendously bold in their convictions. [“those polls—what do they mean?  Will my constituents vote me out if I side with impeachment?”] Plenty of doubts are bubbling beneath the surface, roiling the unity of the Dems on this issue. 

    I believe Madame Speaker Pelosi knows of these doubts and will never call for a formal vote on articles of impeachment. 

    Thank you very much. [big smiley face]