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Ensuring an accurate vote

Dominion Voting Systems and other election software have vulnerabilities, but layers of security guard against widespread fraud

Ensuring an accurate vote

A Lehigh County, Pa., uses a machine to open ballot envelopes. (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)

As some congressional Republicans call on President Donald Trump to concede the 2020 election and acknowledge President-elect Joe Biden, Trump is now centering his claims that he won the election in a “landslide” on the idea of a conspiracy involving Dominion Voting Systems. 

Breitbart, the One America News Network, and Trump allies like Christian radio host Eric Metaxas have also pushed claims of massive fraud at Dominion, a Canadian-based company that provides voting equipment and software to various counties in 28 states. Biden and Trump have both won states that use Dominion. 

Trump has repeatedly claimed that Dominion machines switched hundreds of thousands of Trump votes to Biden and “deleted” millions of Trump votes. No evidence supports the claims. A few technical glitches in Dominion voting machines, which election officials discovered through normal canvassing in a county in Georgia and a county in Michigan, were errors that came nowhere near flipping the states from Biden to Trump.

“There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised,” said a coalition of top Department of Homeland Security (DHS) officials and election experts in a joint statement. Last week Trump fired the head of DHS’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, Christopher Krebs, after Krebs insisted the election was conducted securely. 

The OSET Institute, a nonprofit focused on election security, said the 2020 election was indeed secure. But the organization was more tepid in its assessment of U.S. election cybersecurity overall, comparing it to a cancer patient still sick with cancer but who has received enough treatment to be stable. OSET said although “years of work” allowed for a secure 2020 election, the United States still uses “archaic technology incapable of long-term defense for an ever-evolving threat world.”

After the disputed 2000 election, counties began moving toward digital balloting. But now the gold standard is some type of printed ballots that voters can review at the polling place and that auditors can review later. Software then scans and counts the printed ballots. Security experts like OSET have recommended that model. Congress allocated $425 million last year for states to add paper balloting and beef up cybersecurity. 

States at the center of the Trump legal team’s efforts to overturn the election results, such as Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Georgia, all switched to paper balloting as a backup system recently. More than 90 percent of localities now have paper ballots as a backup, up from 80 percent in 2016. 

After 18 years of electronic-only voting, Georgia overhauled its entire voting system last year for $104 million to include paper ballots as an extra layer of security. Georgia uses Dominion machines where voters cast a ballot on a touchscreen, print the ballot to review, and then submit it to be scanned and counted. Counties in other swing states use a variety of election systems, not just Dominion. 

Still, Trump’s legal team made wild and wide-ranging claims about Dominion in a Thursday press conference at Republican National Committee headquarters. Trump lawyer Sidney Powell—whom the campaign has since disavowed—claimed Dominion and Smartmatic, another election software company, were both “created in Venezuela at the direction of Hugo Chavez to make sure he never lost an election.” 

Dominion has no ties to Chavez (who died in 2013), nor is it connected to the election software company Smartmatic, which is a competitor. In interviews, Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani has repeated similar claims about Dominion and Smartmatic having ties to Chavez. Powell also claimed that “the Smartmatic software is in the DNA of every vote-tabulating company’s software and systems” and that it can “run an algorithm … all over the country” to flip votes from Trump to Biden.

Smartmatic confirmed to WORLD that its software was only used in Los Angeles County, Calif., this year.

Notably, Trump and his legal team have made their claims about Dominion on Twitter and on television, but not in courts. Two legal filings mention Dominion briefly, but more as an aside than a central argument.

Mishaps in Floyd County in Georgia and Antrim County in Michigan show both the holes and the layers of security in the election system. Floyd County missed 2,600 ballots that election officials discovered in the state’s audit and recount, adding 800 votes to Trump’s margin. Trump lost Georgia by 13,000 votes. Gabriel Sterling from the Georgia Secretary of State’s office said it was human error: An election official failed to upload data from a memory card. Sterling said the county’s election director should step down

Trump eventually won Antrim County, Mich., but results initially showed Biden winning by 3,000 votes. The county flipped to Trump after canvassers reviewed the numbers. The Michigan secretary of state’s explanation for what happened in Antrim was confusing, but Andrew Appel, a computer security expert at Princeton University, told me it boils down to the bad design of Dominion’s election management software, which he explains more fully on his blog

“Vulnerabilities are not the same as rigged elections,” Appel wrote on his blog.

He told me several measures catch any glitches like those in Antrim County. 

“Alert local elections officials can notice that something doesn’t look right and get to the bottom of it, and that’s what they did,” he said about Antrim’s results. And Michigan can always go back and check paper ballots if a county isn’t sure about a software-tabulated vote. 

“Local election officials caught it. But what if they didn’t notice? You do a risk-limiting audit—this would have been caught by that,” said Appel. 

In a “risk-limiting audit,” easier than a full recount, officials take a percentage of randomly sampled ballots to check by hand. The percentage is based on an algorithm, so if the outcome is close, auditors would hand count a higher percentage of ballots to check for software anomalies.

Most states require some type of audit to check machine counting against paper ballots. Georgia’s “audit” involved hand-counting all of the ballots.

“If we start sampling a small number of ballots and see that they don't quite match up to what we expect, then we can always count more ballots,” explained Matt Bernhard, a research engineer with the nonprofit Voting Works, which has helped with the audit of Georgia’s vote. 

A risk-limiting audit helps counter the possibility of software glitches or a malicious actor manipulating computer code in the vote-recording software.

Bernhard said there has never been evidence in U.S. history of a “bad guy putting software on a scanner that intentionally ignores votes for one candidate, or flips votes from one candidate to another … but it’s still a concern.” 

The risk-limiting audit would catch either malicious actions like that or glitches. There’s also a “process audit,” he added, which looks at how ballots were stored and the “chain of custody,” which would catch problems like a memory card data not being uploaded in Floyd County.

Bernhard said it would be much more difficult to launch a malicious cyberattack on a national scale without anyone noticing than to take other “lower cost” ways of changing an election outcome, like spreading “misinformation.”

Emily Belz

Emily Belz

Emily is a senior reporter for WORLD Magazine. She is a World Journalism Institute graduate and previously reported for the The New York Daily News, The Indianapolis Star, and Philanthropy magazine. Emily resides in New York City. Follow her on Twitter @emlybelz.


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    Posted: Tue, 11/24/2020 02:13 pm

    Emily Belz and World have done a good job running down these rabbit trails. Would that Metaxes and others who are pushing these theories would take a few minutes to double-check their sources before they push them out to their listeners.

    The information about Michigan is correct. We use paper ballots and tally them by computer. Several counties, including those with Dominion, double-checked their precinct tally sheets with the computer tabulation and it was accurate.

    The Dominion theory is so far-fetched, and appears to have so little evidence behind it that I sincerely question the rest of the theories Metaxes and others are promulgating. 

  • GC
    Posted: Tue, 11/24/2020 05:08 pm

    That last sentence is gold! Who would possibly try to change the outcome of an election by spreading misinformation? ;)

  • Cyborg3's picture
    Posted: Tue, 11/24/2020 11:24 pm

    Emily Belz starts investigating but it is far from complete.  There were several avenues used to steal the election which I will elaborate on as I have time. The first was the Silicon Valley tech companies that effectively censored the news for everyone enabling them to pick up 6 million votes (likely much more) for Biden.   Tucker Carlson goes into this. The second was the big money given by Zuckerberg ($350 million) to effectively define the voting process in the big cities such as Atlanta. I gave a link to Breitbart on that recently. This happened before the election where one nonprofit organization sued them but were not allowed to proceed because there were no damages- the election hadn't taken place yet. The third was the using the Coronavirus to keep poll watchers from doing their jobs so votes could be run up by duplicate counting of ballots, changing ballots, eliminating ballots, creating ballots and much more.  The fourth was massive delivery of ballots at late/early hours to stuff the ballot boxes. The last was to use the Dominion and other voting systems to increase the vote where they later took in ballots so that the numbers matched. This last one currently has less evidence but we will see what evidence that Flynn's former lawyer can dig up. Technically, they wouldn't need to mess with the count of the voting machines if they had a massive amount of fraudulent ballots but it would make sense to keep the count of ballots and votes cast close enough to not raise suspicion. All along the media have undertaken a massive propaganda campaign to get Republicans to go along with the stolen election. I would challenge Emily to dig a little deeper in here investigation if she is serious about uncovering the massive voter fraud, which I seriously have my doubts that she does. 

    Posted: Wed, 11/25/2020 12:38 pm

    Cyborg3, I do appreciate your willingness to put your opinion and facts on the table. In the interests of dialog, and respectfully, I want to respond, mostly because you speak for a lot of people, including friends of mine.

    "The first was the Silicon Valley tech companies that effectively censored the news for everyone enabling them to pick up 6 million votes (likely much more) for Biden." 

    I don't approve of the censorship, but these are private companies who have that right, just as World, Epoch Times, Parler, etc., have that right. I think Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity selectively report the news, excluding news that does not benefit their side, and sometimes spread outright falsehoods. That doesn't mean that if Trump had been reelected, I could have called it a stolen election. The voters have a responsibility and the options (more than ever) to dig down and get to the truth. There's no law currently against a social media company suppressing some stories. If you don't like that, you may start your own social media company that features the stories the others suppress.

    "The second was the big money given by Zuckerberg ($350 million) to effectively define the voting process in the big cities such as Atlanta." 

    Because of COVID, elections were much more expensive this year. People did not want to work the polls, and there was a huge amount of early voting/absentee ballots. The states and municipalities were strapped in their budgets, and a non-profit stepped in to help pay pollworkers. While this certainly could be problematic, it is legal and does not appear (in my opinion) to have been done to ensure voter fraud, but rather to ensure that all votes would be counted. If it was done to ensure voter fraud, let's see the evidence that voter fraud took place or that this was the intention. But, the bottom line is, absent clear evidence of intent to commit voter fraud, it is not illegal for Zuckerburg to donate money to pay pollworkers any more than it was illegal for Andrew Carnegie to build libraries with his money.

    "The third was the using the Coronavirus to keep poll watchers from doing their jobs so votes could be run up by duplicate counting of ballots, changing ballots, eliminating ballots, creating ballots and much more."  

    COVID is real. I know people who've died from it. I have a neighbor who lost 5 family members, and know of others who have lost even more. There are basic CDC guidelines in place, and poll watchers were responsible to follow them. I have not seen credible reports of duplicate counting, illegally changing ballots, etc., but I have seen some claims debunked. I'm interested in seeing evidence if this indeed happened.

    "The fourth was massive delivery of ballots at late/early hours to stuff the ballot boxes."

    No evidence that this happened, that I've seen. I'm open to credible evidence, but based on the false rumors from Detroit, I suspect most other claims like this are bogus. (See this article: and note the quotes from Brian Calley, among others.)

    "The last was to use the Dominion and other voting systems to increase the vote where they later took in ballots so that the numbers matched." 

    "According to The Washington Post, the Dominion software called into question by Trump was used in only two out of five counties where the president is alleging votes were switched in Georgia and Michigan. Georgia has just completed counting all 5 million ballots by hand and announced Friday that Biden won the state by about 12,000 votes. If a software company had switched votes, the hand counting would have caught it. Georgia’s in-person election system does use an electronic machine, but that machine then prints a ballot that the voter reviews before casting it. That paper record – the one reviewed by voters — is what was used during the recount." - Denver Post

  • Cyborg3's picture
    Posted: Fri, 11/27/2020 01:08 pm

    Tim, more propaganda you spew. Are you part of the propaganda campaign to win the election for Democrats? If you can convince just enough Republicans to not fight the voter fraud then you win where we surrender to to the big lie - that Biden won the election. I had to take a break from the election and enjoy my Thanksgiving Day but shortly will confront your distorted information.

  • DD
    Posted: Wed, 11/25/2020 07:42 am

    The Trump administration did not disavow Sidney Powell. Her investigation is on behalf of #WethePeople. The Sunday announcement has since been further explained by the Trump team. I have been disappointed with the coverage here of the challenges. I would have expected a bit more info on the stories being covered daily on Newsmax and the Epoch Times.

    Posted: Wed, 11/25/2020 01:14 pm

    If the dictionary definition of disavow is correct ("deny any responsibility or support for"), the Trump team definitely did disavow Sidney Powell.

  • BLW
    Posted: Wed, 11/25/2020 09:52 am

    It might have been worthwhile to mention the 2006 CNN reporting of concerns about these voting systems along with the Maloney, Klobuchar, Warren concerns expressed in years prior to the 2020 election.  I wouldn't countenance the allegations of targeted election fraud if Reid hadn't made up his tax quote about Romney in 2012, if the Kavanaugh accusations hadn't been completely fabricated, if Trump/Russia collusion hadn't been deliberately and maliciously made up, among other nation-damaging narratives.  That does make me suspicious that some would do absolutely anything to gain power.  The consequences are great enough that the investigations need to be done.  And I believe that affidavits are evidence, as are the statistical anomalies - but they do have to be validated.  It is worth it to investigate fully and either put to rest or validate the concerns.

  • PR
    Posted: Wed, 11/25/2020 11:00 am

    Emily, thanks for researching this. I can't find many media outlets taking time to review any of the fraudulent claims put forth by the citizens of the US. I think there is immense concern and skepticism. I think there is a high amount of doubt in the integrity of the 2020 elections. Please bring us truth and reassurance.

    Would you mind going a layer deeper for us? You are quoting many sources, but as we have all discovered, it's hard to know the validity of any sources today. While I appreciate your article, I feel it was a bit 'empty.' I want more. I want to know more.

    If you are our source, would you consider doing the digging yourself? Dig for us. Please.

    Can you crunch numbers for us? I think your audience has been left with many questions following the 2020 elections. Can you find solid answers for us?

    Can you address the numbers that seem so odd following the election? Why are there more votes than voters in many precincts? Why won't Georgia verify signatures? Why did Republicans perform so well across the nation aside from the presidency? What were the huge Biden spikes in the night attributed to?

    What perspective should we carry? Is it okay to desire to see truth and integrity and justice? Is it okay to challenge you? I need something more solid than the above. Tell us why so many independent lawyers are going after truth?

    Here's one example. I've been reading some of the claims put forth by Lin Wood. He's a highly reputable lawyer. He is the lawyer who defended the Catholic teenager who was portrayed on media as lashing out against a minority during a march. Wood was succuessful.

    Do I need to perceive him as a blatant liar? In all seriousness, I don't know. If what you say here is true and valid, then he's discredible.

    Here's another example. What about the highly thorough affidavit from Russell James Ramsland from Texas. His review of Dominion contains an immense amount of incredible detail. Can you help me understand that his numbers from the public records in Michigan are indeed eroneous? Can you crunch those numbers for us? Maybe you don't have answers but you can at least verify the facts for us. Were there indeed more votes than voters in places?

    Is your article a sweeping conclusion that these independent sources are all fake? They are fabricated? What do we do? Do we disregard? Do we dig? Can we challenge your article?

    I was also not aware that the Trump legal team 'disavowed' Sydney Powell. I was under the impression she was an independent lawyer working on behalf of her right as a U.S. citizen. I think the Trump legal team is making that clear because many were confused by that.

    Was I disappointed in your article? No. Do you I want you to go deeper to bring us more facts? Yes.


    Posted: Fri, 11/27/2020 01:22 am

    Thank you PR for your respectful plea for further info. I second your request!

    I too felt this article seemed to omit large swaths of related allegations and just focused on one, as if that's the only argument for fraud being posted. It left me wondering why other arguments I've heard put forth in support of the fraud claim weren't also mentioned, let alone addressed. I am confused about the silence on many of the same details you mention and would really like to know more about their accuracy or validity.

    Is there a reason WORLD is not mentioned or addressing them? I would really like to learn more from a source I trust so I can begin to formulate some sort of conslusion  in my own mind. I am one who doesn't like to jump to conclusions until all the facts have been exposed and all sides have said their piece...and I am really struggling to know what to believe in all this. Some of the evidence for these claims of fraud seem valid, and other seems far-fetched...but I'd like to hear them addressed individually and directly.

    Please WORLD, give us more help in distinguishing the facts from the fiction in this post-election confusion. Thank you!

  •  CaptTee's picture
    Posted: Wed, 11/25/2020 11:32 am

    “There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised,” And as long as the source code is not open to inspection, there never will be any evidence!

    I also note that there is no mention in the article about precincts with more votes than registered voters.

    Posted: Wed, 11/25/2020 12:20 pm

    CaptTee -- Regarding the source code, Georgia and Michigan both compared their computer tabulations with the actual tallies. There is no evidence of votes being switched, and there is significant evidence that votes were NOT switched. Sidney Powell has made outlandish claims, including that the governor and secretary of state in Georgia were likely bribed. She has not followed through with court cases or evidence.

    Regarding the precincts with more votes than voters, wasn't that based on an analysis of Michigan precincts with Minnesota data?

    This is hugely frustrating, because the "elite legal strike force" makes a public statement but won't back it up with evidence or claim it in court, and then people start repeating it as if it's been proven or even credibly alleged.

    In the meantime, the next time there is a credible case of voter fraud, it will be that much harder to get to the bottom because the Trump legal team has made such a mockery of the process. 

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    Searwar Family
    Posted: Thu, 12/03/2020 12:31 pm


    I don't know if many people understand what "source code" means.  Which is basically all the files that make an application work.  There doesn't appear to be any insight into code audits via tools like SonarQube or Nexus IQ.  These checks can help expose vulnerabilities and inspection of what exactly the software is doing and has the ability to do.  But that's usually done when using opensource components though not exclusively.  But it is best practice to do continuous code review during build processes.  

    Another concerning aspect is the access to USB ports.  Most security minded firms disable USB ports.  For instance, all the USB ports for all emplyees at my work are disabled.  It is terrifyingly easy to insert a USB drive that can auto-launch code to hide in RAM.   Which can remove itself when searched for and certainly disappear when power is lost. 

    I suppose it's all proprietary software, and the last I've read they were running on Windows 7.  (  There isn't a whole lot of transparency to much of the infrastructure.  There could be valid reasons for that, but you could have the logs indexed and ensure they are immutable.

    I don't know if there was enough fraud to affect the election, but all and any vulnerabilities should certainly be addressed.  Vulnerabilites just don't disappear on their own.  It requires pro-active diligence.  But if you know the build, you can open and close vulnerabilities at will.  Scary stuff.  In an information age, battle landscapes are much different than land, sea and air.

    -Middleware Engineer

  • R AND D
    Posted: Thu, 11/26/2020 01:06 am

    I appreciate the comments of DD, BLW, and PR, as I was thinking much the same as I read this article.

    Emily Belz and the editors of World, Tim Miller and all readers who are concerned about discovering the truth about the 2020 election, if you have not watched the Pennsylvania State Legislature public hearing conference held Wednesday, Nov. 25, I strongly recommend (and pray!) that you will do so. It was lengthy, four hours, so perhaps you can view it in segments over the weekend. It is compelling, very informative, and presents much of the basis for the claims of President Trump and his attorneys. Fifteen of the many witnesses we have heard about during the past three weeks present their accounts or expert knowledge. These witnesses have set out their testimony in sworn affidavits, under penalty of perjury, which have been submitted to the courts in the litigation filed in this matter, and are therefore evidence. Similar hearings in two other states, Michigan and Arizona I believe, are expected to take place next week. Here is the link to the Pennsylvania hearing.

    Have a blessed Thanksgiving.

  • BLW
    Posted: Fri, 11/27/2020 09:29 am

    For Tim Miller, I think there are a few points of clarification in the same interest of respectful dialogue, especially since we’ve gone beyond the Dominion/Smartmatic code the article addressed:

    Re: Silicon Valley censoring the news – I originally felt the same way as Tim Miller, as private companies they can’t be forced to carry content.  Unlike opinion shows and publishers, the internet content providers are subject to specific constraints of the Federal Communications Decency Act (Section 230) that protects them from lawsuits about offensive content and its censorship.  Arguably, they have exceeded their remit in censoring political reporting for a law intended to censor obscene and extreme defamatory content but were otherwise to act as a mere conduit for information.

    The money “defining” the voting process could just be chalked up to the unfortunate but legal, intrusion of big company money (which is decisively on the side of the Democrat party in the 2020 election) or it might have been used to violate equal protection requirements if some districts with Democrat leanings followed different voting procedures than others (if some district technically non-compliant absentee votes were allowed to be “cured” while others weren’t).  Again, something worth investigation and court determination.

    It’s not about whether COVID is real.  But we’ve all heard the Rahm Emanuel rubric “Never let a crisis go to waste”.  I personally believe the courts and legislatures should have stepped in to stop the untested (at scale) mail in voting during a presidential election.  Many countries don’t allow it, some states don’t – and there is a reason.  There is ample opportunity to vote, and ad hoc law changes like eliminating signatures/ID are too dangerous to have been taken on so dramatically and suddenly.  This election’s rejection rate of mail-in ballots being much lower than prior elections deserves investigation.

    You are correct, from my understanding, that the specific Ramsland analysis of turnout ratios used bad state data.  This situation is too important for such poor handling of critical data.

    Finally, I think what is disappointing to many people, is the general tone of skepticism in articles regarding concerns about the election, which is important and supported by at least some evidence.  Compare this to the much less skeptical coverage of the Russia collusion story – which was cloaked in secrecy as to its evidence (proven to be false) but accepted by so much of media and still believed by many today.

  • Cyborg3's picture
    Posted: Tue, 12/01/2020 02:57 am

    Here is an expert talking about the vulnerabilities of the Dominion voter system. 

  • Donnie Jr
    Posted: Wed, 12/02/2020 02:28 am

    Cyborg3 and R& - You hit the nail on the head.  Kudos to you. 

    Tim - I would suggest watching the testimonies from Arizona (Nov 30) and Michigan (Dec 1).  There are dozens of eyewitness testimonies regarding voter fraud that you deny has happened in this election.

    WORLD - I have been extremely disappointed in recent months of the biased covering by World Magazine.  My sister picked up one of your magazines at our home and read an article and was completely appalled by it's democratic bias.  We will not be renewing our subscription, as we can get the same "news" from MSM for free.  How can you make any claims of faith and at the same time back those who stand against Christian decency.  Shame on you. 

  • OlderMom
    Posted: Wed, 12/02/2020 09:30 am

    I am currently a housewife, but I have done computer programming and have many friends still in that field, as well as friends who are statisticians and other kinds of scientists and engineers. 

    I am hearing from numbers people that the numbers didn't add up (and there are many obvious logical inconsistencies such as how did a Democrat who really didn't even run for this position do so much better than Obama, who was popular, active, and good-looking), that the Dominion security is appalling, and that once you separate secret ballots from their proof of coming from an eligible voter, it is very very difficult to prove even widespread fraud.

    This is why the burden of proof should be on those who claim the election was secure. So far I am hearing "they said", "he claimed", "she said". I am not hearing PROOF of security. The system is supposed to be built for security, so it should be easy to show what measures were taken to require security - unless they weren't taken.

    Meanwhile I am hearing lots of credible allegations from people with little to gain and much to lose by making them.

    Please look further into the numbers - talk to some numbers people. We need to see some evidence from election officials, and explanations for unbelievable numbers.

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    Shelley Tuttle
    Posted: Wed, 12/02/2020 12:27 pm

    In order to have a comprehensive look at all affidavits that witness to the Dominion Voting System being able to be rigged or manipulated, I think each point of Sidney Powell's of which there are 30 needs to be addressed. Here is a link to all of them: Sidney Powell has a lot at stake, and her "acusations" were not off-the-cuff  from the Twilight Zone (as a highly-regarded attorney, she ostensibly does not put forth shoddily acquired facts), but, I believe, soundly mustered in order to prove that there was substantial hanky panky going on. Someone else said it here, but to repeat--based on the history of deliberate and incessant actions against Trump to get him impeached when the truth was borne out over time--some people will do anything and everthing to get rid of him. Need we leave that concern out of the picture? Christians often sanitize evil because they themselves have known little of it in their lifetimes or they discount its reality because they want to believe the best or they are persuaded by people's rhetoric. Please examine every point and don't throw the "baby out with the bathwater" because one or more of them may seem incredible to you. Something happened in this election, and we need to get to the bottom of it whether the outcome will be for Trump or Biden. 

  • jrathj
    Posted: Wed, 12/02/2020 09:50 pm

    Thanks for this article, Emily. In it you wrote "Georgia uses Dominion machines where voters cast a ballot on a touchscreen, print the ballot to review, and then submit it to be scanned and counted." The printed out ballot also includes a QR code, which cannot be verified visually, and when the ballot is "scanned" it is only the QR code that is read, not the filled in circles that the voter could have verified. If ballots are "recounted" using same Dominion tabulating / scanner machine, same results. Assuming all ballots are valid, hand recount might get different totals. But, that's a BIG assumption (that all ballots are valid). 

  • greentravelgal
    Posted: Sat, 12/05/2020 02:20 am

    It is refreshing to see thoughtful and clear-eyed journalistic work of this level.  As so many accusations are swirling, it is helpful to be reminded of the systems in place that exist specifically to identify and to prevent both intentional fraud and human or technological irregularities.  With so much fear and emotion heightened by rampant misinformation, it can be easy to start to be caught up in the churn.  I appreciate the opportunity to step back and take a look at the checks and balances that exist.  Thank you Emily and World.  It is clear from many of these comments that your are paying a price for integrity, when so many organizations in the evangelical world have become "evangelists" for a political outcome or simply outrage.  Thank you for sticking with the biblical and journalistic principles you have held from your founding.  

  • OldMike
    Posted: Wed, 12/09/2020 03:47 pm

    My answer to Tim Miller and others who are saying, "There is no evidence of widespread fraud in this election, not at all what it would take to change the outcome of the election:"

    I'm not in a position to evaluate the many claims that there was fraud, nor the many rebuttals that, no, there was no widespread fraud.  None of us normal folks are in a place to see and judge the evidence on both sides of this!

    But what we are in a position to evaluate are motives and methods of some of the parties involved. IF many many Democrat politicians, the media, social media, extremely wealthy persons, etc. had not declared war on President Trump from the beginning--"we're gonna impeach that _________!"  IF the completely phony Dossier/Russian Collusion charges hadn't been aided and abetted and sworn to by so many highly placed persons, both elected and appointed; IF that had not been carried so far as impeachment proceedings;  IF Brett Kavanaugh's Supreme Court appointment had not been contested by so many Dems, media etc. who quite willingly and loudly stood behind spurious charges with no collaborating evidence:  

    IF all that and more had not been launched against a lawfully elected and widely supported President, THEN I could say, "No, President Trump's opposition has done nothing to make me suspect they would EVER EVER entertain the notion of trying to steal this election."

    But the opposition has, in my opinion, insanely attacked President Trump, and in fact all conservatives, to the extent I am willing to believe they absolutely would stoop to anything!

  • The Hacklemans
    Posted: Thu, 12/10/2020 07:05 pm

    I know this is not an easy subject to tackle, but I had higher expectations.

    It seemed like I was reading a script from the MSM, and my heart and faith in World sank.