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Unfit for power

It’s time for Donald Trump to step aside and make room for another candidate

Unfit for power

Donald Trump (Spencer Platt/Getty Images)

WORLD Magazine’s Aug. 29, 1998, cover.

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A still from the scandalous 2005 video featuring a lewd conversation between Trump and TV reporter Billy Bush

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A still from the scandalous 2005 video featuring a lewd conversation between Trump and TV reporter Billy Bush

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Two nominees unfit for office spar during the Oct. 9 presidential debate.

Eighteen years ago, a WORLD cover pictured President Bill Clinton next to the headline, “Time to Resign.” Clinton had denied having a sexual relationship with Monica Lewinsky, but her stained blue dress bearing Clinton’s DNA was proof that he had used his power for adulterous purposes, and then lied about it.

This month a videotape showed Donald Trump making lewd remarks about groping women’s genitals. While many opponents over the past year have criticized Trump’s character, the video gave us new information about how Trump views power as a means to gratify himself. It raised further questions about how Trump would act if elected to the most powerful office in the world.

Although WORLD over its 30 years has been more critical of Democrats than Republicans, particularly because of the abortion issue, we are not partisan. The standards we applied to Bill Clinton in 1998 are relevant to Donald Trump in 2016. A Clinton resignation would have been good for America’s moral standards in 1998. A Trump step-aside would be good for America’s moral standards in 2016. It’s still not too late to turn the current race between two unfit major party candidates into a contest fit for a great country.

WE KNOW OUR SUGGESTION that Trump step aside will dismay many of his evangelical supporters, for whom we have high regard. We know they are not the “deplorables” Hillary Clinton despises. They are courageous Americans who realize the desperate situation we’re in because of judges and executive branch appointees who legislate, and a Congress that lets them get away with it.

For many, Hillary Clinton’s platform is reason enough to support Trump. They and we see big media dumping on him and minimizing her offenses. Some conservative anti-Trumpism looks suspiciously like intellectual snobbery. Nor is Trump unique: John F. Kennedy was also a frequent adulterer. (Kennedy—sadly—made sin look like sophistication.)

The prime reason evangelicals tend to support Trump is pragmatic. A White House Clinton-to-Gore transition 18 years ago would have made little difference in worldview—but if Hillary Clinton wins next month, her judicial appointments will turn federal courts much more aggressively to the left.

Our regular surveys of evangelical leaders during the primary season showed almost no support for Donald Trump. Only when Clinton became the alternative did Trump gain majority evangelical support in public opinion polls. Joel Belz early on had called Trump “an arrogant blowhard” (Sept. 19, 2015), and we did not hop on the pro-Trump bandwagon, but continued to report the good and the bad.

Besides, WORLD is a product of God’s World Publications, which as a nonprofit organization cannot endorse candidates. That’s not our job, anyway. Journalistically, our goal is to inform our readers, whom we trust to make wise decisions. Theologically, a deacon told me when I professed faith in Christ 40 years ago, “People often will disappoint you, but Jesus never will.” That’s been true over the decades, and our editorial staff members have learned to put no trust in princes even when they show good character, let alone when they do not.

As individuals, though, our editorial staff members have taken positions. We’ve tended to be #NeverHillary. A few of us were #NeverTrump. Several of us wanted to give Trump every opportunity to represent well an uprising much needed in American politics.We know that few Democrats and only some Republicans abide by the Constitution. They make up rules as they go along, put into practice cranky ideas marinated at leading universities, and demonize opponents.

We’ve seen how the problems go beyond politics. Many corporations profit not by producing better products but by influencing regulators. Equality of law and opportunity disappears as protected groups have their way. Two-thirds of Americans have come to believe that our leaders are corrupt. Democrats may have chosen Bernie Sanders if their party leaders had played fair. A plurality of Republicans voted for Trump’s combination of anti-establishment noise with claims that bringing back good old days would be easy.

After the July Republican and Democratic conventions, I noted that “Trump is generally reckless and Clinton generally ruthless. … Trump is a proud adulterer. Clinton is a proud pro-abortionist. Since character counts, both will almost certainly be presidential failures. … Let’s not rush the process. We have three more months (and three presidential debates) in which to see how these two candidates operate under extreme pressure. We should consider third party candidates as well. This is not a year for early voting.”

We’ve been reluctant to applaud those who call for a definitive no on Trump because, as our republic has turned imperial, it needs the vigorous shaking that Trump supporters would provide, even as their candidate has faltered. Scholar Angelo Codevilla put it graphically concerning both Trump and Sanders voters: “Because this majority sees no one in the political mainstream who shares their concerns, because it lacks confidence that the system can be fixed, it is eager to empower whoever might flush the system and its denizens with something like an ungentle enema.”

WHAT’S CHANGED NOW? Ken Rizer, a military man serving in the Iowa House of Representatives, summarized the videotape’s impact: “Given this recent release, I have decided I can't in good conscience vote for [Trump]. As a base commander, I aggressively prosecuted Airmen who sexually assaulted women. As the father of two college-aged women, I know too well the challenges they're facing daily in regards to groping, lewd conduct, etc. Trump’s comments reveal an arrogant lack of character.” 

Didn’t Trump’s earlier comments also reveal that? Sure. We value WORLD readers who concluded earlier that the honor of Christ made it necessary for Christians not to vote for Trump. We also value those who still plan to vote for Trump so as to vote for the Supreme Court. (We’re not sure we should trust Trump to come through on nominations: If a person is unfaithful to his spouse, he’s also likely to be unfaithful to his country.)

The new video pushed theologian Wayne Grudem to withdraw his endorsement of Trump and urge him to drop out of the presidential race. The videotape, in the words of Albert Mohler, president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, “revealed a sexual predator, not merely a playboy.”

In suggesting that Trump drop out and let someone else carry the campaign for the remaining weeks, we at WORLD are not endorsing any other Republican and certainly not Hillary Clinton. We also realize Trump is unlikely to heed our call. We’re aware of the practical difficulties in making a change at this point.

Yet, even with ballots printed and early voting already underway in many states, the Electoral College chooses the president. Despite some confusion, a Republican other than Trump still could triumph, given Clinton's unpopularity. We have repeatedly provided information about her malfeasance: See, for example, our June 11 and Sept. 17 cover stories.

Improbable that a new Republican candidate could win this election: yes. Impossible, no. In any event, to quote Mohler, we should not “allow a national disgrace to become the Great Evangelical Embarrassment.” We should not abandon our witness to the world that God is real: Glorifying God by honoring His standards is worth more than political gain.

WE KNOW THAT MANY CHRISTIANS, including some of our readers, will say that given the judicial stakes it’s wrong this year to draw a line in the sand. Our call for a different Republican candidate will lose us some readers and donors. But, standing before God, we cannot say that what WORLD argued concerning a Democrat in 1998 should not apply to a Republican in 2016.

As the Clinton precedent shows, we set the stage for even worse behavior when we ignore blatant offenses. Our journalistic task is to call powerful people to account, regardless of their party, regardless of the politics of the moment.

We don’t know if God will rescue our nation from the pit into which our politics have fallen. We don’t know if He will rescue WORLD from the ire some Trump supporters will feel. We hope and pray that He will—but if He doesn’t, He is still God, holding the future of individuals and nations in His hands. May His name be praised forever and ever.

Marvin Olasky

Marvin Olasky

Marvin is editor in chief of WORLD News Group and the author of more than 20 books, including The Tragedy of American Compassion. His latest book is World View: Seeking Grace and Truth in Our Common Life. Follow Marvin on Twitter @MarvinOlasky.

Marvin Olasky

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Comments

  • Sue Wilson
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 06:43 pm

    Thank you for this--a thousand thank you's! This truly sums it:  "We should not abandon our witness to the world that God is real: Glorifying God by honoring His standards is worth more than political gain." I hope and pray that to the contrary you gain readers and donors and know that God will bless your faithfulness!

     

  • Elaine
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 08:11 am

    I am a complete supporter of World Mag but calling only for Trump to resign is ridiculous.  Clinton is far more wicked, criminal and unfit to serve as president.  Where is World's call for her to resign from the Democrat ticket?????

  • Cory Brouwer
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 11:04 am

    I completely agree with Elaine. This is the most hypocritical article I have ever seen in World. Why aren't you asking Hillary to step aside for supporting and enabling her rapist husband, breaking federal laws and all of the corruption? Why aren't you asking members of congress to resign or step aside for many of the same transgressions? Only holding one candidate to Christian standards is ridiculous and hypocritical. According to this line of thinking, we shouldn't vote at all because all the candidates are sinners.  

  • MARGARET PURIFOY
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 01:49 pm

    My question for the World staff is: what of his policies have changed?

    Then I might agree with their call for him to step aside. Didn't we know this was who he was before that tape was ever leaked? It seems sanctimonious to distance from him now.  There is not much difference between what was recorded and what we already knew about this womanizing, foul-mouthed unbeliever. Why would we expect him to act differently?

    The stakes of this election are so high. This lewd conversation pales in comparison to the damage that will be done through Hillary's globalist, anti-American and pro death agenda.  Articles like this simply give more fodder to the non-voting or 3rd party voters. Which will be the reason we end up with a criminal in the White House. 

  • PAUL KNUTSON
    Posted: Mon, 10/24/2016 02:28 pm

    Enabling Clinton is not good Christian witness.  What is Trump doing -- he is moving in the direction of godliness, repenting of past indiscretions, choosing life, surrounding himself with godly advisers.   Not voting, or voting Constitution Party, is more than likely going to push the election to Hillary -- who embraces statist, godless government, abortion, and advocates that Christians bend to the world's standards.   

    You dishonor God's standards when you enable the election of godless leaders like Hillary.   

  • Dale R Hedstrom
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 06:48 pm

    Good for you for taking a stand and doing the right thing.  I am happier than ever to be a World supporter.

  • fatsmontana
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 11:24 am

    Elaine:  Donald Trump has been formally accused of sexual assault 25 times, rape 4 times and CHILD RAPE is now going through the court system in New York. Trump supports LGBTQ rights, primarily Trans Rights and has spoken out against our efforts to help protect children and now Christians are supporting Planned Parenthood because they "do great things". WORLD Magazine represents Christians and all we stand for...we simply cannot turn away from our faith because some want to fight evil with evil.

    PLEASE,  show me anyplace in the Bible where God says to support, and promote a person like Trump. Be real: If Trump had a "D" behind his name you would also be calling for his removal...just like we did with Clinton. Christians supporting Trump has hurt our witness for generations due to our disgusting hypocrisy.

    Sorry, I stand on the word of Truth, and I see no case of God reward ANYBODY for supporting evil.  

  • Steve SoCal
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 08:52 pm

    Fatsmontana:  Where do you get such information about these many allegations against Trump?  And, if they exist, have any been brought to court and proven?  I'm not saying it's true or false, I just wonder where you get your facts to make such serious accusations.

  • Cyborg3's picture
    Cyborg3
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 02:55 am

    And when Hillary and the liberals have their way you  will be on the rack where they will force you to recant your faith, believe in global warming, morally support homosexuality, and support all kinds of liberal causes.   If I am on the rack beside you, I will remind you how you failed to support the man who could have stopped all of this! Foolishness is no virtue!

  • JefWI
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 06:55 pm

    Thank you, indeed. We must do the right thing regardless of consequences and trust a soveriegn God to accomplish His purposes.

  • SonoitaMike
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 12:40 pm

    Please share what the right thing is in your mind. If we apply Christian standards on all our candidates we have no one to vote for!

  • Deb O's picture
    Deb O
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 06:57 pm

    No one needed this recent videotape to surface to know the dearth of character and inadequacy of Donald Trump.  It pains me to say this because I've valued your heart and many opinions all these years, Mr. Olasky, but World making this statement now is simply running for cover when you could have taken a leadership stand for morality and ethics months ago.  

    The Republicans in this country blew it this time around, and they must pay the price.  There is no time left for Trump to step down unless you concede Hillary wins by a landslide because ballots are set.  Conservative Christians who aligned themselves with Republicans for all these years should have distanced themselves a long time ago from Trump and maybe Rubio or Cruz would be running against Hillary.  Now, it's too late.

     

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 03:28 pm

    @Deb O - well said.

  • fatsmontana
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 11:31 am

    Thanks for your thoughtful comments Deb. I agree 100%...we needed to step up and stand up for Christian values a long time ago.  I don't care if you have an "R" behind your name, we represent Christ...not the republican party.  Roe V. Wade?  Republican Supreme Court.  Gay Marriage? Republican Supreme Court. Obamacare? Republican Supreme Court. 

    We must not kid ourselves that it is OK to trade our values for SCOTUS. 

  • RUDY & SHIRLEY ...
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 12:33 am

    Well said and I agree with you.

  • JIM&JULIE REIMANN
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 10:48 am

    Great comment, Deb...  I wanted to reply to Fatsomia- I wouldn't even trust Trump at this point to bring in conservatives for SCOTUS-- he is criticizing Republicans already who are distancing themselves from him-- doesn't he need their support to bring in conservatives for SCOTUS?  As my late husband used to say "He's making friends fast!"

    Oct 11

    Our very weak and ineffective leader, Paul Ryan, had a bad conference call where his members went wild at his disloyalty.

    Oct 11

    Despite winning the second debate in a landslide (every poll), it is hard to do well when Paul Ryan and others give zero support!

    Oct 10

    Paul Ryan should spend more time on balancing the budget, jobs and illegal immigration and not waste his time on fighting Republican nominee

  • Cyborg3's picture
    Cyborg3
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 12:46 pm

    The foolish stand of not supporting Trump will lead to much more evil with Hillary as president. Don't you care about abortion? Don't you care about little children being tortured and slaughtered for their faith by ISIS and a corrupt and inept USA doing nothing about it? Do you want to kiss goodbye gun rights, religious freedom, and freedom of speech? Do you want your church shut down because of hate speech laws?  What if Trump was a murderer? Would you vote for him then?  Well David was an adulterer and a murderer, yet God did not remove him from being the King.  There are times that we are stuck with choosing the lesser of two evils, like in this election. Trump, with all his foolishness, does not compare to the evil of Hillary Clinton who is a modern day Jezebel!  It is time to own up to reality and support Trump! Smug self righteousness will only destroy this nation and lead to greater evil!

  • Deb O's picture
    Deb O
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 06:01 pm

    @Cyborg 3:  Even though I'm an Independent, I've voted for the Republican ticket for forty years because of the platform, not necessarily because of the candidate.  However, I've always been able to find some glimmer of honor, of character, of leadership, of gravitas that helped me to pull the lever too, not just abortion or supreme court justices or gun rights.  Up until the moment he began running for president as a Republican, Donald Trump was closer to the Clintons in philosophy, and in social and fiscal matters, than he was to you and me.  He's speaking somewhat conservatively now because he needs your vote.  It's not who he is.  He never met a law or lawyer he couldn't bend to do what he wanted, and you're going to trust him to do the right thing when push comes to shove??  He'll send you to the 'rack' just as fast as Hillary, as you mentioned in another post.  

    Hillary's the devil incarnate, cries the right, while the left cries that Trump is Hitler.  Come on ... these are two pathetically flawed, consumate liars with no ounce of moral fiber and one of them will be our next president.  God help us either way!  I will not participate in the charade that is this presidential election.  I am a conscientious objector.  Call me a coward if you like for the rest of your days, but don't equate Trump with King David.  One bowed low to God in humility after his sins.

    The conservative Christians who voted for Trump in the primaries are the ones who made this bed that we will all lie in.  He would not have won otherwise.  We've been slouching toward Gomorrah for decades, but now we're seeing it up close and personal instead of far off in the distance.  Justice Anthony Kennedy was nominated by Reagan, for goodness sake, and he wrote the gay marriage opinion for the court that had zero basis in the constitution!  America will cease to be great when it ceases to be good, as the old adage goes.  It took less than 300 years ... we're here.  

  • Cyborg3's picture
    Cyborg3
    Posted: Sun, 10/16/2016 04:22 am

    @Deb:  When I think of the cost that went into making America the godly light shining in the world, it greatly pains me to see how Christians so frivolously are throwing it all away. I was Trump's greatest critic in the primary but when he won, there was no other effective choice but to support Trump who is far less evil than Hillary. I don't buy your argument that they are the same! Abortion is the greatest evil that America has seen - even worse than slavery. And here I think those who pushed for its legalization and supported it politically (like Hillary) have the greatest blood on their hands.  The young girl or woman who was misled or pressured into abortion does have God's offer of forgiveness, so I do think one should communicate the seriousness of the sin, yet not make the guilt excessive.  So, you seem to not believe that abortion is a serious sin, by your comments in your post.  And the appointment of judges is not important? If Trump will just appoint good judges, then that sets him miles apart from Hillary, for we know the kind of judges she will appoint!  And we have seen Hillary on the job selling out our foreign policy so she and Bill can get rich through bribery.  Money was given to the Clinton foundation and Hillary and Bill were paid high fees to give talks at events, where the payee got immediate service at the State Department, where they would bend the US foreign policy to make sure the money kept rolling in. The server was her attempt to conceal her graft and corruption. That in itself should have put Hillary in jail, yet the Obama corruption prevented true justice from being served! I should bring out Hillary's gross ineptitude in foreign policy, which has enabled ISIS and the mass killings in the Middle East. Most disturbing is the marrying off of little girls where they are abused tortured and sometimes killed.  Or the little Christian boys being killed in cruel and torturous ways!  Hillary has failed to reign in this evil where her lackadaisical and foolish efforts (this includes Obama) are most notable. Giving billions of dollars -even cash payments to release Americans - to Iran was totally outrageous!  So Trump says a lot of foolish things but he is standing fast  to fight these evils. How do we know he will follow through? Trump has a lot of pride so he sees things through - just look at his businesses.  He will complete it out of his stubbornness and pigheadedness - in this case traits that work to our favor.  Also, Trump is seeking to leave a mark for good. He sees the liberal lies and corruption and is truly angered by it.  I don't think this is fantasy thinking on my part either for he has put forward a lot of money to run, he visibly gets fired up about it, and  there is a complexity about the man that defies simplistic explanations. God often chooses the simple to shame the wise, and I would not be surprised if down the road we see him become a changed man. Now I am not saying we should vote for him on these premonitions, but the other points are valid.  And we can always impeach Trump should he abandon reason and engage in foolishness worthy of impeachment!  Trump is worthy of our support and our votes, for if we do not support him, we will see Hillary in office - the greatest evil!

  • Dean from Ohio
    Posted: Tue, 10/18/2016 07:02 am

    Nonsense. Crossover Dems put Trump in the nominee position in the GOP. Meanwhile , Marvin Olasky is acting like the AIDS virus, suppressing our nation's immune response against the vile communist Hillary Clinton. He of all people should know better.

  • JerryM
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 07:00 pm

    To be fair, could you please publish a similar article titled "Similarly Unfit for Power", calling Hillary Clinton to step down.  While this is more improbable, it at least helps operationalise your stated non-partisanship.

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    Nick Stuart
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 07:21 am

    Thank you.

  • Elaine
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 08:12 am

    Absolutely agree!!!!!  Trump is a terrible candidate, Hillary is a purely evil candidate.  If he goes, why in the WORLD would her resignation not also be called for?

     

  • Helene
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 11:41 am

    Agreed completely!

  • fatsmontana
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 11:33 am

    WORLD has been 100% clear that they do not condone Hillary and have openly spoken out against her.  

  • Matthew
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 05:20 am

    The difference is, World does not support the Democratic platform in general. You can replace Hillary, but they're not going to be able to endorse that candidate. It's more than a character issue on that side of the aisle.

  • TOM&DARLENE TIBBETTS
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 03:10 pm

    Amen!

  • SUSAN HOLZBERGER
    Posted: Mon, 10/17/2016 11:36 am

    I agree with Matthew...well said.

  • Stevie
    Posted: Wed, 10/19/2016 05:14 pm

    I totally agree---it would restore some of my fiath in World Magazine (maybe).

  • Steve SoCal
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 07:07 pm

    This could be the right stance to take, but individual Christians will still need to make individual decisions, with God's guidance, on election day.  It would be wonderful if we ended up with a better choice, but unlikely as you acknowledge. 

    It's only God who can know the sincerity of a person's repentance, such as Donald Trump's in the wake of this video.  One difference in the analogy between Bill Clinton and Trump, however, is the DNA proving Clinton's actual, recent, immorality and abuse in the immediate past while in the presidential office and lying about it to his family and the nation.  Trump's video was 11 years ago; he did not claim it didn't happen; and he has given some semblance of an apology to his wife, his family and the nation.  Again, only God knows his heart.

    God help us all.

  • DWayne
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 07:10 pm

    How typical to weave your way through theology, making indisputable points, and then ... when reality sets in to call for a vote that registers HERE and NOW in this extremely evil world ... you waffle. It is so typical to see my fellow Christians choke when tough decisions have to be made (or, actualy, I gues they DON'T have to be made. It's easy to fall apart when the going gets gets tough). You do not have the courage to choose a lousy candidate in order to choose against a common criminal who has been bathed in the criminal mindset at least since Arkansas. I'm sure you have all studied the dilemna of telling the truth v.s. continually lying in order to save lives from Nazi killers. Or are you holding out because Trump's latests disgrace has to do with sexual sin? 

  • phillipW's picture
    phillipW
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 12:40 pm

    Are you excusing his overtly deplorable sexual misconduct and using it as a weapon against Clinton?  To quote my kindergarten teacher, "two wrongs don't make a right."  Stay on point, stay focused and on target here.

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 07:20 am

    @phillipW - you are using a moral equivalence argument. This is a logical fallacy. Being a playboy and bragging about it is not quite the same as the Clinton Corruption machine - with a very high body count.

  • SonoitaMike
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 12:45 pm

    You have explained the problem very well. It seems we Christians are better victims than participants. Now I see how  Nazi party accomplished what they did with many ChristiI ans support, or silence, until it was too late!

  • TIM ALDERSON
    Posted: Sat, 10/22/2016 12:14 am

    Agree with DWayne & the others who are disappointed (to put it mildly) over this. Also SonoitaMike's comment seemed "too much" at first, but after thinking on it, tend to agree, especially the victim v participants part. 

    Christians are being played by the radical left. They wanted to divide the evangelical vote...it was too easy.

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    Soapbxn
    Posted: Wed, 10/26/2016 01:32 pm

    I'm pretty dismayed at how quickly even Christians are to convict with no proof.  The only proof so far is of a foul mouth that also occasionally receives a foot.......  Personality is not enough to make one unfit or to convict them.  People (sheeple?) are behaving like unthinking mobs.   It is very obvious, if you do any digging, that much of what we are reading and hearing is fabricated by very liberal mainstream media and the Hillary campaign.  

  • D Oliver
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 07:12 pm

    A dollar short and a day late ... unless we have a miracle.  I will stand with World.

  • Cyborg3's picture
    Cyborg3
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 03:30 am

    Allowing the greatest evil is not righteous nor shrewd!  It could well be said to be evil!

  • Rich277
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 07:24 pm

    Thanks.

  • Andrew Wist
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 07:35 pm

    So you hold Trump's comments from 2005 as proof somehow that he is unfit for the presidency.  He has appologized for what he said back then.  He claims he has changed.  Considering there are only two choices in this race, I find it ludicrous  that you would join in the Trump bashing considering the alternative.  Neither candidate in my opinion is a Christian believer.  However,  Trump's vision of what he wants to accomplish and his vision of what is wrong with our country is for the most part correct.  This is in contrast to Clinton's position of more of the same.  Have you considered  the many instances of  Hillary's swearing? What about  her lying? What about her lack of leadership?  What about her health?  Have you considered the successful leadership; exhibited by Trump?  Have you considered your past mistakes in speech, and actions as dissqualification for you as an  editor for WORLD?  Give the guy a break.... and consider which of the only two viable candidates could make our country great again.

  • SleeperSRT10's picture
    SleeperSRT10
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 08:23 pm

    Amen.

  • phillipW's picture
    phillipW
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 12:44 pm

    Your response to this article is exhibit A for why America is in such moral shambles.  You'll excuse any morally reprehensible behavior if it suits your needs.  I don't read anywhere where World was excusing Clinton's behavior, but sin has consequences.  Trump's sins demand consequences.  Stop flipping the argument to suit your desires.  I think we are long past the time of excusing bad behavior in our leaders just because the other guy is worse.  They need to be held accountable; all of them.  But please stop insulting my intelligence by giving Trump a pass for this.  It's beyond contemptible at the minimum and he should be disqualified from ANY leadership position, ANYWHERE.

  • fatsmontana
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 11:41 am

    phillipw:  Thank you for your conviction!

  • Shay's picture
    Shay
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 03:30 am

    I agree with you, Andy...

     

  • Cyborg3's picture
    Cyborg3
    Posted: Sun, 10/16/2016 09:17 am

    @phillipW: It amazes me how we expect our candidates to be completely from a Christian mold. If they are not, then we will turn against them even if they are better than the other candidates and resign ourselves to defeat. If we have a chance to get 60% of what we want from a roughneck Casino developer or 0% then the wise way would be to take the 60%!  We cannot expect the casino developer to have the character of a pastor!  When the left does a political "hit job" on him right before the election, we should be smart enough to see what it is, rather than rallying to his destruction. If my every word for the last 11 years was examined, I am sure there would be things I said that I would be totally ashamed to have repeated before the world, let alone a roughneck casino developer. If we look back during the time of the judges, many of them were the roughneck type - just look at Sampson.  They operated under a theocracy, which is different than today. Your holy roller attitude will only lead to the destruction of this great nation! Please be wise and vote for Trump!

  • LISA FIGG
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 07:43 pm

    Thank you for the consistency and clarity - much appreciated!

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    JennLynne
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 07:50 pm

    This was even-handed, well reasoned, and wise. Thank you for saying what needs to be said. 

  • Elaine
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 08:17 am

    It was not even-handed.  Dr. Olasky neglected to also call for the resignation from the Democrat ticket by a woman who is demonstrably motivated by pure evil.  When he does that, then the article will be considered "even-handed".  Though at this late date it seems this article is more like 'piling on' than anything else.

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 10:01 pm

    @Elaine - 100% correct.

  • Joe M
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 07:56 pm

    King David had his future mistress' husband killed. He was a man after God's own heart. Trump bragged with words ten years ago. He is the potential "evangelical embarrassment"? The embarrassment is the voting purity tests, and the idea Christians as a block are obliged to vote or not vote for anybody. I am sorry Beth Moore was abused, but I fail to see how that is related to a man not accused of abusing anybody, and a man who apologized for a ten year old statement. Murderous kings can repent, I guess, even as they maintain their harems, but modern egotists can't. The sanctimony here may be unintentional, but it is still there. 

  • fatsmontana
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 02:33 pm

    Not abusing anybody?  Where have you been?  Walking in on Teen Girls in the changing room, forcing himself on women, making sexual comments about his daughter, a total of 25 official sexual assault accusations, (yes more than Bill Clinton) 4 rape accusations and 1 RAPE OF A MINOR a case which is moving forward with an official hearing THIS DECEMBER! He was good friends with Jeffrey Epstein, a convicted child molester, and he has owned and peddled pornography (strip club owner, Playboy etc) for decades which offers it's own pain to families.

    Didn't Hurt Anybody?  This comment right here shows why we are where we are.  

    As far as your comment about King David -- if you can't understand the above, you can never understand how far off you are on that as well. 

  • MARY EVE IWICKI
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 12:41 pm

    Wait - what?  When did Beth Moore's name come up?  It's sounds like Trump abused her -- and that's not so.

  • beloved of God
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 09:03 pm

    Maybe you will start spending more minutes on third-party candidates?

  • Cyborg3's picture
    Cyborg3
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 03:59 am

    Maybe Not!

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    Neil Evans
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 08:04 pm

    I have, do and will continue to admire, respect and support World and their mission.  I disagree with this particular stand.  I wonder if the same thinking and conviction applies to all politicians and even to all areas of our lives in a fallen world.  Must we refuse to vote for or support any and all obviously sinful people?  It seems to me that to require such scrutiny would greatly limit our options in voting and we would essentially be left out of the decision making processes in our communities and country.

    In what ways does God expect Christians to challenge an unGodly culture?  The ONE THING we MUST NOT DO is turn on each other for our decisions in these difficult times.

  • Shawn Keating
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 12:50 am

    Well said- ppolitics has rarely been for perfect paragons, but often people with clay feet. all too human.

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    Xion
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 01:47 am

    Well said Neil.  (I remember you from the former days at World Mag Blog).  I think the confusion here is that some Christians don't recognize there are two kingdoms and two sets of rules.  We aren't electing a national pastor.  This is a sinful world, ruled by Satan, and we vote for people who might lessen our daily evil slightly.  We aren't voting for holiness, but for civic aptitude and a political philosophy that engenders freedom.  We aren't trying to create heaven on earth, rather we're trying to limit the power of our would-be oppressors.  We are voting for freedom.  

  • fatsmontana
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 11:38 am

    Show me ANY politician who supports Gay Rights, Planned Parenthood, War Crimes, lies once every 3.5 minutes (proven), Trans being able to used whatever bathroom/locker room and is accused of 25 sexual assaults, and 5 rapes, including the accused rape of a child...and YES we need to speak out and fight against them. We are all sinful, but I think this goes well beyond sinful...especially when he continues to say evil things WITH PRIDE. 

    ONE THING we MUST NOT DO is turn away from the clear teaching of Christ. 

    Here is an excellent message on the issue for the challenges we are facing based on BIBLICAL principals, not the logic of man. 
    http://stevedeaceshow.crtv.libsynpro.com/a-sermon-on-judges-12 

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    Eileen
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 07:24 pm

    I am appalled at the way some of the comments downplay Trump's sins.  Maybe some of you should look at the lists in these comments of his criminal actions again. 

     

  • DWayne
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 02:21 pm

    True. We must NOT war with each other. Let's sort through all the shouting: I'm thinking World would agree that BOTH Clinton and Trump are unfit to lead this nation, and who would disagree with that. We can go on and on about their sins. But what about the actual choice to be made at the polls on November 8th? Can World actually say Clinton is the best choice? Yes, third party people are out there, but let's get real. NONE of them will be elected. So ... again ... it's him or her. How can all our many beloved and admired evangelical stars, or all the rest of us, vote for her? Is she the one that's going to move this nation forward with less baggage and damage than him? And please stop with the "I'm not voting at all." Again, that's a vote for her.  

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    Cyborg3
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 03:51 am

    Eileen, we recognize that these recent charges were brought up at the best time to ensure Hillary gets elected. Does something smell fishy? Why did the liberal press sit on these charges? Why did the "victims" not bring these charges up years ago? This is a political attack to destroy Trump, so yes when the life of this nation is on the line, I will choose the lesser of evil - where Hillary has him far beaten on the evil charge!  

  • SonoitaMike
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 12:49 pm

    Well said. 

  • standforTRUTH
    Posted: Mon, 10/17/2016 01:50 am

    I agree with you Neil.  I must say I question the timing of this article.  I don't understand why at this late date WORLD is getting on its moral "high horse".  I find hard to swallow the fact that an 11 year old event is the game changer.  And then to have this story glaringly on the issue cover plays right into Hillary's hands and is as damaging to the credibility of the conservative cause as anything the opposition can dig up on Trump.  I believe in a situation like this one must look beyond the candidates of both parties to the platforms of those parties and vote for the one that stands for Biblicle principles:  Sanctity of life, marriage between a man and a woman, etc.  Do that and the choice becomes clear.  To not vote is dereliction of duty and trampling on the graves of those who gave their lives to secure our freedoms. To foster and promote the idea of Trump standing down at this late date is to promote a fantasy.  I am very surprised to see WORLD magazine taking this stance.  Did we learn nothing from the last election?

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    West Coast Gramma
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 08:47 pm

    Thank-you, World!! And Hallelujia! This is the best joy I've had all day-or all week-(daily communion with Christ excepted, of course). Your action gives me hope.

    I love World Magazine, and often speak of you with pride. It has been difficult for me. Just now, after praying to the Lord to help us, I turned on my computer and find this. World, I now have a community, as I have felt alone among evangelicals for some time. And if you (we) go to the lions, we will gratefully and proudly go together, in faith. This truly changes so much for me--I'm actually in tears as I write this. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

    Could this be the beginning of the repentance that brings on the long sought and long prayed for Revival? (If my people who are called by my name humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.) Repentance doesn't mean, "If only those people over there would repent." Read, if only those "lying" Democrats would repent. Rather, it means, "I need to repent." Perhaps more evangelicals, of whom I am one, need to repent for having supported for so long a man so not like Christ.

    You have explained yourselves very well. You have been fair and even handed in your news reporting--I have noticed that in your ongoing coverage of this pre-election season. Perhaps the Lord will step in with a miracle after all.

    Thank you again, World. Grace and blessing to you!

    Christina

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    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 07:25 am

    @West Coast Mom - "Hallelujah" ??? - you're kidding right ? I'm guessing then you're ok with butcher Hillary getting in.

    You say - "Perhaps the Lord will step in with a miracle after all."

    - Um, well, perhaps the only person who could wake up America is Donald Trump ! God knows what he's doing, no ?

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    Shay
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 12:50 pm

    Sounds to me like "World" has joined the world.  They have decided - against God's word - to judge a non christian against Biblical, Christian standards.  They have not done the same with Clinton.  

    I Corinthians 5:12 says, "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"  

     

     

  • Pat Clermont FL
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 09:15 pm

    If the video came out after you cast your ballot, would you try to recall it? WE are almost at that point.....no squeaky clean candidate....just one whose sinful thoughts became public and  is a person who needs the same rescue by our God that we have been afforded. Who knows the state of his soul before God...Maybe praying for him, praying for revival, praying for Christians to display to the world we are a forgiving all way to the cross; are believers who have the faith that even this man can do some good and even God's work. He is the one for now. Show  the strength of your faith...do not cower! We live in a culture of Beyoncé, JayZ, and Fifty Shades of Grey. Stop being shocked!!  Pence may become POTUS later...so many things could happen....we only know NOW and we need to deal with it at the voting booth. God is in control!!!

     

     

     

     

  • HeJets's picture
    HeJets
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 08:50 pm

    I am disappointed to read this. Trump is not from the normal political grid we have grown up with. He is the rejection of it; the revolt from the Republican political (let alone the Dem's) machine and grossly corrupt and bloated federal government that is imploding more every month.

    Giving up on the obvious candidate that desires to turn the country around from the direction and people that been uprooting this country's values from the Consitution on up....ugh....We may lose the election but, like fallen troops in battle, I will be on the right side of it.

    Marvin, where was this sentiment a week ago and prior? We have all cringed at Friday's 'bus talk' but who can possibly be surprised? Whereas conservatives cringe at Trumps issues, we are angry at Hillary's. Whereas liberals cringe and deny at Hillary's issues, they are angry with Trump's. So what else is new? That news is decades old! With weeks left, now is not the time to feign a noble death-bed conversion.

    Just because we may disagree on this matter does not mean I don't support World or won't read your columns like I have for years. I'll write this and press on to the next one. You are a good man, Charlie Brown. Just don't let Lucy (or Hillary) convince you to let her hold the football.

    My last point is more foundational. You say that another candidate (perhaps Pence) could step in and, with God's willingness, that candidate could win this election. True. God is always in control. Our Father, however, has not retracted free will. This country is still in a long and willing free-fall from grace. On one hand, until there is a national repentance in the USA, that same USA would not even recognize that miracle let alone repent in the face of it. On the other hand, the real miracle would be that Trump would win in spite of his big and loud potty mouth.

    Until next week, my brother, write on!

  • Sojourner For Now
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 10:22 am

    HeJets, I strongly disagree with your statement that by voting for Trump you will be on the "right side" of the battle.  But more importantly, I greatly enjoyed reading your comment on how one believer can strongly disagree with other believers and not try to destroy the other believer (the brother [or sister] for whom Christ died. 1 Cor 8:11).  

    To be fair, this attitude of boldness together with humility (this is how I would describe your comment), should be more common than it currently is by BOTH sides of this argument.  I was a #NeverTrump during the primary, recently contemplated voting for him purely for the SCOTUS appointment(s), and then concluded my conscience would not permit me to vote for him.  At the same time, I understand that many Christians believe that - even HRC aside - he is the best option because he is so anti-establishment.  Then you add in HRC and it becomes a no-brainer (to many believers, but not all believers) to vote Trump.  

    Your comment is a great "How To" on disagreeing like a mature believer.  Thanks!

  • standforTRUTH
    Posted: Tue, 10/25/2016 08:28 pm

    HeJets, I strongly agree with your take on this article.  Your last point is especially clear sighted.  We had wonderful choices in the Primary leading up to this sad General Election.  The people did not choose the apparently Christian, morally outstanding choice of Rubio or possibly Cruz.  They chose Trump.  For WORLD editors to suggest, at this late date, that another candidate could step in and win is not faith...it is fantasy.  People need to get their Bibles out and compare the platforms of each candidate (Democrat vs Republican) and vote accordingly. If people vote by writing in a candidate, or third party or abstain from voting altogether then we will certainly get what we deserve!  It is true that if we don't learn from history it is doomed to repeat itself..

  • Christian_Prof
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 08:59 pm

    Bravo Mr. Olasky, Mr. Belz, et al. Bravo.

  • ROBERT BROWN
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 09:02 pm

    I am voting for the president of the Senate as it looks as though we may be back to a 50-50 Senate. Gov. Pence is a prolife follower of Christ and is at the top of the ticket.

    I am also praying for God's mercy. 

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    Karen K
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 09:20 pm

    Who knows what may happen between now and Election Day?  We do have one option to follow as we watch and consider what to do in our voting.  Prayer.  I have a plaque at home that says:  "Prayer changes things."   I can still pray to God to watch and step in as He is always in control. 

  • Elizabeth
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 09:30 pm

    Of course Trump is unfit, as is Hillary Clinton. I will not vote for either one, but I still cannot see how this dumb audio tells us anything new about Trump. He owns a pageant and casinos.  Some of his casinos apparently house strip clubs. So, what makes these vulgar statements worse than his very public actions over the years?  I mean, gosh, his broad daylight ventures look pretty awful.  But it is 11 year old words that do him in?  

    The moral of this story seems to be revel in immorality and give women a place to strut their sexuality for all to see, but for heaven's sake don't SAY aloud that those self objectifying women are something to objectify. Oh no, better praise their brains and revere them as, well, Mother Mary maybe. 

    I agree with those wanting to see a like article about Clinton's unfitness. Also, a piece on why Bill Clinton should not for a second time be anywhere near the Oval Office. How embarrassing. 

    How Twilight Zone is all of this. 

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    Kiwi
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 10:17 am

    Thomas Hoefling of America's Party is a principled follower of Jesus, and is qualified as a write in in many states.

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    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 07:27 am

    @Isabel - very good.

  • DCal3000
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 09:36 pm

    Though I despise him, I may still vote for Trump in order to stop Clinton.  It doesn't matter anyway, because Clinton has already won, even if Trump steps aside (keep in mind thousands and thousands of votes have already been cast).  That said, I appreciate WORLD's even-handed approach here and think this column reflects well on Dr. Olasky and WORLD.  In other words, this column is good leadership.  It is a far-cry from the Gospel Coalition column that appeared in the Washington Post over the weekend, in which Russell Moore and Collin Hansen got together to make fun of their own laypeople who were voting for Trump and to gleefully dance on the grave of the Christian Right (which, since they didn't define the term "Christian Right," must have appeared to the Washington Post audience to encompass all politically-involved evangelicals, including WORLD Magazine's readers). 

  • SonoitaMike
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 12:56 pm

    I will vote for him too and you are correct  Hillary will most likely win because her tactic has been to make sure the evangelicals don't vote or waste a vote for a third party candidate. 

  • Graced
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 09:41 pm

    Thank you for caring about how Trump's words affect millions of women who have experienced them in action.

  • Alice Robertson
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 10:13 pm

    Bravo!  The truth...finally!  While so many other evangelical leaders compromise (proclaiming SCOTUS ...the banner of conviction...leaving supposed trivialities like the impossibility of another Scalia-like conservative being approved again to the wayside.  Or the reality that even with him we were losing the culture war and Roe v Wade has been a long term realism...sigh).                        Why not downvote conservative and work towards a limited term SCOTUS?  At times I have wondered if the election is more a test on the saints than anything else.  If so...overall our leaders failed us.  The voices in the wilderness are heard by those who are still listening.   Thank you!

  • Timothy J
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 10:19 pm

    Donald Trump would disgrace the office of President fo the United States the moment he stepped into the Oval Office. As a husband and father of three daughters, I cannot stomach his preditory approach toward women. I cannot vote for Trump. If necessary, I will seek a conservative, pro-life leader to write-in.  If Trump is capable of putting others' concerns before his own, he will step aside. I'm not holding my breath.

  • tavo
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 06:15 pm

    Choose your poison. Hillary Clinton would disgrace the office of POTUS, given her actions in public office. A write-in or third party candidate will do nothing to stop either of the two top nominees.

  • RICHARD HADLEY
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 10:23 pm

    Your article is well written and on point. I agree wholeheartedly with it.

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    RonK
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 11:22 pm

    It's too late. It's Trump vs. Clinton.

  • MARSHA CHIANG
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 11:38 pm

    In the primary,  Trump was my last choice.  In the  upcoming election he is my 1st choice among two deeply flawed individuals.  I really don't understand how this is being compared to what Bill Clinton did while an elected official,  and lying under oath,  and what Hillary did to cover up the "mess".  These vile words happened over 10 years ago.  This was disgusting speech by a celebrity billionaire who lives by the mores of this age.  Why is this a surprise?  The Democrats have been praising these societal mores for generations.  They are just using this to try to squelch Trump's candidacy.  They really don't care what he said.  They didn't care what Bill Did.  We don't have a choice this election  of a conservative Christian to vote for for president.  Living in Illinois,  I've rarely had a choice of a conservative to vote for for senator or governor.  I vote for the lesser of 2 evils.  I have no other choice.  Not voting is a vote. Furthermore,  Trump has apologized for his words.  Yes,  we take that apology lightly. But what if it is true?  Why are we throwing away a chance to appoint supreme court pro life judges,  have a conservative prolife VP?  I don't get it. If this immoral speech happened while campaigning,  I could understand the uproar.  If he didn't apologize for it,  I'd understand the uproar.  If he was running to replace Russell Moore at the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention,  I'd understand the uproar.  But he is not claiming to be a born again Christian.  He is not running to be your spiritual leader.  He will not be perfect.  He will make decisions I don't like.  But I am banking, though my vote will not matter at all in Illinois,  that he will do much more good than Hillary,  who has had many errors,  misjudgments,  lies,  failed national and world decisions to her credit.  I disagree with almost everything she supports.  In the Old Testament,  the prophet Jeremiah pleaded with the people remaining in Israel after many were taken to Babylon and Jersualem was burned,  that there would be peace in the future for Israel if they stayed.  They instead went to Egypt.  Prophets urged those in Babylon to build homes,  and live in peace.  I think the rulers of Babylon were much worse than Trump.  And yet God's prophets asked them to do their best with the place God has place them.  God is allowing 2 deeply flawed candidates to run.  We have a responsibilbity to do the best with the choices we have.  I don't think a conservative Christian could win this election anyway,  though I wish it were true.  I pray Trump will win,  and God will bless him, and use his flawed past,  his flawed personality,  and help make changes for the good. 

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    Jeff Jentgen
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 11:47 pm

    I´d suspect that if virtually any presidential candidate during our lifetime had to undergo the scrutiny of the world of 2016 (internet, ubiquitous cameras, zero respect for privacy, a media that has turned into a mob against Mr. Trump,  etc.)....I´d suspect that every one of those past candidates would suffer "revelations" similar to what has been revealed about Donald Trump. Not only past presidential canditates, but most of us here would be in trouble if we had the lens on us for all these years as had Trump.  Though I´m sure WORLD´S editors voted in elections of the past, and I´m sure WORLD´s editors don´t jettison friends because of a colorful past. 

    Donald Trump is a good man with a big mouth.  We´ve all had friends like him.  They´re a pain in the butt, but when it´s money time, they come through...and they´re very loyal.  Everybody who knows Trump personally  vouches for his character.

    I read somewhere recently where WORLD does not endorse candidates.  But WORLD decides to, in effect, break that rule at a time when our nation is in a state of self immolation, where sin and tyranny are dominating, and growing.  Where if Clinton is elected the trend will continue at an even higher velocity.  Vexing.

    Trump is far from perfect.  Trump carries huge risks.  But with the risk comes a high potential upside.  He is a fighter who is not under the spell of political correctness and thus is one in a million who has the guts to make the changes needed.  I also sense he is a man who seems to have been triggered by this campaign into growing spiritually and intellectually, a growth that could continue into a Trump presidency.

    I´m going to hang with him.  He´s going up against the whole world, he has been treated more unfairly than any political candidate in history, ...it´s not even close.  But he keeps battling hard.  I respect that and have developed a respect for the man I did not have some months ago. 

    It´s very disappointing that the one news source I´ve come to trust has made this decision.  I could see not voting for Trump, but to try and influence others to not vote for him, and thus elect a point person for all that is corrupt and  dirty in  America in 2016.....that´s almost unforgivable.

    A horrible decision WORLD magazine.

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    Jeff Jentgen
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 12:08 am

    Hillary Clinton wants to force me to spend my money on abortions.  If I refuse she wants to put me in jail for my refusal.  She wants to do the same to all of us.  Mobs are tearing across the American terrain,, burning, looting, having good men fired from positions because these good men believe in heterosexual marriage, chasing good people off college campuses, demanding Christians not only tolerate the mobs´ agendas, but that Christians support the mobs´ agendas.  Police (who represent the best that is us) are under a vicious societal attack , an attack that threatens their existence as our support against anarchy,.... Hillary Clinton supports the mobs and piles on against the police.  Religious freedom and freedom of conscience in general is under attack, the bad guys are winning on this front.  Hillary Clinton is one of the 4 star generals leading this attack against religious liberty.  Genocide is taking place internationally, Christians are some of the main victims.  The forces promulgating this genocide want to kill us all.  Hillary Clinton will continue to pander to these forces and set the table for the genocides to continue.....and set the table for immense violence to be promulgated on Americans on American soil in the years to come. Etc.

    But Donald Trump was caught speaking like a male speaks, or at least speaking like most men have spoken at one time in their lives. And for this WORLD magazine chooses to single him out for chastisement,  throw him under the bus ........

    .....and clear the way for HIllary Clinton to continue the evil mentioned above.

    Vexing to the 3rd power.

  • Janet B
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 11:33 pm

    The sad thing for me is that I have no expectation that what we will get will be any good.  I just don't want Hillary Clinton as president. That's all I know.  

    What a mess.

  • Because I Think
    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 11:51 pm

    You can't be serious. Have you people never walked among the common man. What is a sexual predator? A man seeking to have sexual intercourse with a beautiful woman. The country is full of them. You honestly believed before this that Donald Trump never lusted after beautiful women. Is it so unacceptable because he talked about it in a private conversation? Do you honestly believe the hearts of all the other Republican nominees in the past several decades were so much purer, or you just believe the country is better run by white washed tombs? We are not electing Miss Christianity. We are electing a chief executive officer for the country. I argued strongly against Donald Trump during the primary season, but at this point we have only two options. This recording changes nothing. I continue to see Donald as much more genuine, and reverent toward the values that made America great, than our other choice, a known traitor.

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    Lizzy
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 01:24 am

    What values is it that you see Trump as holding that are in any way genuine and reverant toward the values that made America great?  Trump over the course of this campaign has made it clear that he neither knows nor cares about the Constitution, the Bill of Rights or a society based on Judeo Christian beliefs. He is a big government statist who has praised totalitarian regimes over our own. 

    We are electing a chief executive officer for the country, not a king.  Neither major party candidate has shown even one particle of fitness for the office and the fact that we are in this mess can be laid squarely to blame on the American people who have chosen bread and circuses over substance.  From where I sit, it really doesn't matter whether Clinton wins or Trump wins.  Either way the loser will be the American people - they just apparently haven't all woken up to that fact yet. 

  • FreedomInTejas's picture
    FreedomInTejas
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 12:04 am

    The culture of the White House will not be safe for female interns or a positive role model for males if either of the current leading candidates are elected. 

    Our sons and daughters are watching and listening to see what stand we will take and justify in this election. A powerful, teachable moment pitting the temptation of idolatry against faithfulness. "But if not..."

    Stoke up the furnace for the faithful.

  • K Scott
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 12:37 am

    I am a Christian, a conservative, and a recovered victim of rape. Also, I supported recovering victims of sexual assault and sexual abuse for over forty years. So, I speak not only for myself, but also for countless other victims of these horrendous crimes. Thank you from the core of my being and the depth of my heart for standing up for us. It is about time this country seriously acknowledges the trauma and degradation perpetrated against victims, both by attitudes and actions.

    Needless to say, I do not believe Donald Trump or Hillary (and Bill) Clinton should be given the honor of residing in our White House. Whether apologies have been spoken or not, there are consequences which cannot be ignored. 

    I am grateful that you have taken this courageous stand, while acknowledging great risks: to yourselves, to the outcome of the election, and to the future of our country. As followers of Christ, we are responsible for obedience, not results. Obedience to our righteous God and what He requires of us is primary. All else is secondary. May we rest in the knowledge and the truth that He is sovereign and He is enough. May God have mercy on our nation, and may He protect and honor His obedient remnant. Stand firm and be at peace. 

    Kay Scott, author of Sexual Assault: Will I Ever Feel Okay Again? (Baker Publishing Group/ Bethany House 1993)

     

     

  • LOIS MCDOUGALL
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 12:28 am

    You quote Mohler..."Glorifying God by honoring His standards is worth more than political gain."  I'd just like to say that in America, a lot of "we the people" seek to honor God through the political system that our founding fathers set up.  And since the Supreme Court is so important to issues of life, religious freedom and marriage, I will vote for Trump.  And I will pray for Trump that he will continue to surround himself with Godly men to advise him. I shudder to think of the rapid decline of our country under a Supreme Court packed by Hillary. 

  • standforTRUTH
    Posted: Tue, 10/25/2016 08:50 pm

    Well stated, Anonymous and exactly right on.  People need to look at the big picture and the reality that although we are not of this world; for now we have to live in it. Much prayer is required and a good dose of common sense.

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    Go Yankees
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 12:30 am

    As I said nearly a year ago when the Trump bandwagon was just launching: "Where are we going, and what are we doing in this hand-basket?"

  • TOM TERRELL
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 12:31 am

    My primary candidate was probably not electable in a national election, but I vote for him anyway. Now there are only two and one of them will be elected. It simply comes down to which of these two will help or hurt our nation, my family, and our Christian outreach the most.

    What lies ahead? I was hoping that the pendulum could swing back towards the right. However, I believe that in this postmodern culture the core of our nation has bought the lies of Secular Humanism.  A truly conservative Christian, who is conservative on both social and economic issues, and who has a firm belief in original intent of the Constitution may be unacceptable nationally at this time. For the pendulum to continue towards its Godless left direction will bring judgment and persecution.  Take a serious look at the aFaAction Difference Between the 2016 Presidential Candidates’ positions and dare tell me I should not vote or waste my vote. One of the candidates may try to force me to deny my Christian beliefs and prosecute me for hate speech for not accepting a judicial decision; one of the candidates may demand I accept illegals or be considered a criminal; one of the candidates will increase spending to the abortion mill; one of the candidates will continue supporting Iran which theologically wants to bring on Armageddon.

    Which do you want? The one who needs his mouth washed out with soap or the one who should be in prison for: murder, perjury, operating a criminal enterprise, and miss handling of highly classified material?

    Not a difficult decision for me. Word’s position is deeply troubling and wrong in this article.

     

  • tavo
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 06:28 pm

    Fully agree.

  • Shawn Keating
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 12:48 am

    Boy, the pharasaical sanctimony is getting thick here. When have we held presidents to this kind of pedestal purity standard? What historical president would meet this evangelical ideal? GW Bush- with his wars and compromises? Clinton? HW Bush was too liberal and broomed out. Reagan- he was an actor and divorced. Carter was to weak a leader and universally dspised by the end of his term. Ford? Nixon- hmmm? LBJ? Kennedy? We are getting pretty deep back here. How about Washington? He was a flirt, an elitist, lost a lot of battles, Congress came close to replacing him several times. Jefferson- his religion has been debated for centuries, Adams- incipient Unitarianism, stomped on the 1st Amendment. Andrew Jackson- killed men, potential bigamist, autocratic style, spoils system, Lincoln-  instigated a war that killed 600,000 Americans, suspended the Constitution, ruled without a Congressional quorum, tried to imprison the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, extreme marrital stresses, political opportunist. So who would meet this new standard of evangelical purity and be able to lead this nation? This high handed treatment of Trump sends a message to thse who identify with him and his less than polished style- do not apply for grace at our church if you ever used "such language: as gives Victorian spinsters the vapors, you are unclean and there is no mercy for you here! It reeks of country club elitism against the vulgar mob and the great unwashed that put Trump in place according to the rules and supported him while the elites pooh poohed him and those that chose him. This new standard seems awfully conveninent and tilts toward a Hillary victory. Hillary is Evil at a biblical level of corruption, anti-life, anti Christian, and done far worse things than Trump has even talked about, and abetted her husband's predatory behavior. Trump has never been legitamately accused of any of the things he talked about wanting to do. He has apologized, where is his forgiveness? His is repentant.. Where is his grace? Where are the evangelical leaders to come alongside him to help him like they tried for Clinton? Oh no- he's not "good" enough for the dainty new party.

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 03:10 pm

    Amen, @shawnskey.

  • Dad of 5's picture
    Dad of 5
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 12:56 am

    Amen.

    I have voted my conscience for many elections and God is still in control. My greater disappointment is not between Trump vs. Clinton, but that the American Independant party in California, (Constitution Party in other states) recommended Trump. After years of voting for Alan Keyes for president, I'm chewing on do I vote Libertarian, or the pro-life Mormon write in candidate, Evan McMullin.

  • Kiwi's picture
    Kiwi
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 11:38 am

    Tom Hoefling of America's Party is qualified as a write in in California.  He is a believer and a principled, pro-life candidate.  His running mate is Steve Schulin.  The website to learn more about them is selfgovernment.us

  • NBrooks
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 01:56 am

    God bless you, Marvin Olasky, and bravo!

     

  • Xion's picture
    Xion
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 02:11 am

    I respect Marvin Olasky, but it is clear that what we have here is a business decision, not a moral one.  Republicans are removing their public support in droves in an effort to leave the sinking ship.  Fine, but call it what it is.  It is fickle self-preservation.  Satan is the ruler of this evil world, but according to Marvin's logic only choir directors are fit to lead.  Patton was a foul mouthed, self-aggrandizing prima donna, but he was suited to the task at hand.  So was MacArthur, but Marvin would call them unfit for power.  If I were under seige in Bastogne in 1944, who would I want in charge, Patton or Marvin?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_S._Patton%27s_speech_to_the_Third_Army

  • gndgirl
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 10:48 am

    I agree. This seems like a business decision. I have great respect for World Magazine, but this makes me sick. I will vote for Trump, because he is the only choice if we want to stop Hillary, who is much, much worse.

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 10:55 am

    100% correct Xion. See my comments this morning.

     

  • Larry Lynch
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 03:00 am

    Men will be men when they are around other men that are making remarks that should not be made about women, but this is the type of country we have grown up in during most of our childhood.  Unfortunately, all young men or women did not grow up in homes that taught God's Word and now we proscecute men like Mr. Donald Trump because 11 years ago, he made some remarks about women that should not have been said so now all us women that have husbands that have done the same things in the past are going to reject them for acting or saying these similar remarks around 11 years ago too!  This is rediculous as it seems we are throwing the baby out with the dirty water.  My husband and I do not understand why American people are saying these remarks against Mr. Donald Trump when he was not fortunate enough to grow up in a home where they taught the Word of God like some of our Pastors and followers of Jesus Christ.  I am not sure that Jesus would be so down on Mr. Trump when he just spoke these words, but did not actually do the act as Mr. Bill Clinton and many other Presidents of the United States have done in the past.  We all have skeletons in our closet and need Jesus as our Lord and Savior.  We are not looking for a Pastor to fulfill the role of President of the United States, but if any of the Pastors want to support Mr. Trump that would be great or if someone that is a Pastor wants to run for President of the United States in the years ahead that will be fine too.  Right now it is unfortunately Hillary Clinton and we have seen her record in the past and it does not look like it is getting better because she has a difficut time in telling the truth and not having a heart for the American people where Mr. Trump cares for America and wants the United States to be great again!  We pray that this is God's will for the United States of American that we will be humble and cry out to our Lord and pray for Mr. Trump instead of wanting to try to destroy his name, but it does seem that God is watching out for him because every time someone tries to knock him down with the Lord's help he gets right back up and becomes stronger than ever.  God Bless Mr. Trump and his stand for what is riight and good in American and healing between the American people instead of this division.  People like Hillory and Bill Clinton should not be throwing stones at Mr. Trump when they live in a glass house and they do not have a conscience about all the different choices that they have been involved in when these choices helped to tear down the United States of America.  It is a disgrace what they have done and do not admit about doing these detestable things.  We are shocked by so many people that are turning their backs on Mr. Trump and yet will not speak up against what the Clinton's have done and are doing!

  • Pax17
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 03:24 am

    Who will stand with Israel and the Jews?  Hillary?

  • Steve Shive
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 05:35 am

    Thank you for this. I appreciate your perspective and cogent commentary. When you referred to possible fallout against you and/or World I thought, "For what?" Then I read the comments. Of course. Many of the dissenting comments call you out for something you should have said or someone you should or shouldn't have mentioned or taken to task. Then I re-read your editorial and there it is. You covered many of the obvious possible objections. Of course you weren't writing a book. You can't cover every possible person, 3rd party candidate, eventuality. And of course you do report on others.

    Again, I appreciate your editorial Mr Olasky. There is no flaw. to our reasoning. And I do see you taking the moral high ground in this. But you have doen it in a humble way. But, I do want to comment that I saw references in comments that this is what we have because God has alllowed us to have TWO very flawed major party candidates. This seems to be a perspective that this is God's doing and we must accept it?! The very existence of something that is very flawed is not an argument that somehow God is responsible. Or that somehow makes our response different. Sometimes enough is enough! There are too many obvious examples of how this cannot and has never been true. We are to fight some of these supposed God allowed heinous movements or people. Fill in the blank about countless current and many many historial atrocities.

    Thank you for this excellent and thought provoking editorial. I accept it as face value and will continue to pray for God's will to be done "as in heaven also on earth."

  • MELINDA WILLIAMS
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 06:21 am

    Thank-you.

  • Kristopher
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 06:43 am

    Mr. Olasky and the editors;

    Thank you for being consistent and trustworthy.  World magazine has been a part of my walk with God for 23 years and you continue to maintain what you stand for and what you believe in.  You have been an encouragement to me and you have challenged me.  I have sometimes disagreed but I have not lost my confidence in your ability to do your job well.  This is a risky move.  It is a bold move.  I applaud your courage.  Press on my brother!

  • MELINDA WILLIAMS
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 06:52 am

    Thank-you.

  • MELINDA WILLIAMS
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 06:52 am

    Thank-you.

  • Doane
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 06:56 am

    Joel 2:12-17 comes to mind.  Isaiah 62:6-7 also.

    Hypocrisy starts with me.  Do I fear and love the Lord, and love my neighbor, such that I will not rest while His name is dishonored in my midst.  In honest conscience, I cannot answer that question affirmatively to say that I have given all that I can give for the glory of His name in our nation.

    Thankfully, Jesus has given all for us and He lives forever - able to save completely those who draw near to God through Him. (Hebrews 7:24-25)  There is perhaps a time for pointing prophetic fingers elsewhere, but for the Church in America as a whole it seems to be a time that we must begin with our own repentance.  

    Some trust in "chariots" (technology and modern conveniences?) and horses, but we will trust in the name of the LORD our God. (Psalm 20:7)

    Psalm 146:

    Praise the Lord!
    Praise the Lord, O my soul!
    I will praise the Lord while I live;
    I will sing praises to my God while I have my being.
    Do not trust in princes,
    In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation.
    His spirit departs, he returns to the earth;
    In that very day his thoughts perish.
    How blessed is he whose help is the God of Jacob,
    Whose hope is in the Lord his God,
    Who made heaven and earth,
    The sea and all that is in them;
    Who keeps faith forever;
    Who executes justice for the oppressed;
    Who gives food to the hungry.
    The Lord sets the prisoners free.

    The Lord opens the eyes of the blind;
    The Lord raises up those who are bowed down;
    The Lord loves the righteous;
    The Lord protects the strangers;
    He supports the fatherless and the widow,
    But He thwarts the way of the wicked.
    The Lord will reign forever,
    Your God, O Zion, to all generations.
    Praise the Lord!

  • PastorTWP's picture
    PastorTWP
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 07:06 am

    Thank you for the clarity, compassion and conviction found in this article. I said two years ago to the church I have the privilege of shepherding that this election could be the death-knell of the Christian voice in politics if we let fear lead us to hypocrisy. Unfortunately for some that is exactly what is happening. Thank you for your stand, and I will continue to support your ministry and enterprise.

  • Nick Stuart's picture
    Nick Stuart
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 07:27 am

    WORLD calls for the "Pilate Option."

    I cannot think of any issue where Trump would not be at least better (or at least not as bad) as Clinton. I will confine my remarks to just the one, of those many, which to me is the most important.

    It is impossible to predict whether Trump will live up to the promises he has made that have garnered him pro-life endorsements by the likes of Troy Newman (Operation Rescue), National Right to Life Committee PAC, West Virginians for Life PAC, Ben Carson, Marjorie Dannenfelser (pro-life activist and president of the Susan B. Anthony List), Frank Pavone (National Director of Priests for Life) and others.

    It is virtually certain that Clinton will live down to the promises that have garnered her the endorsement of pro-abortion endorsements like Ilyse Hogue (President: NARAL), Cecile Richards (President: Planned Parenthood), Eleanor Smeal (President: Feminist Majority), NARAL Pro-Choice America, Planned Parenthood Federation of America, and others.
    Promises like the promise to repeal the Hyde Amendment that has been estimated to have saved over 2,000,000 lives since enacted.

    While Trump’s pro-life position is recent and sketchy, it is immeasurably better for the cause of life than Clinton’s longtime abortion at any time for any reason paid for with public money stance.

    Stand on your Principles™ and vote for neither if this is what you have determined to do. In doing so you will cooperate with evil by passively helping elect Clinton.

    We all will be called to account for our actions. I'm ready to be held accountable for voting for Trump. Apparently Mr. Olasky and the editors of WORLD are ready to be held accountable for doing nothing.
     

  • Lowell W's picture
    Lowell W
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 12:48 pm

    Excellent point Nick.

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 03:26 pm

    @Nick - very good, totally agree. Plus World is out of their league with this, and walking out in the 4th quarter.

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    Brendan Bossard
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 10:55 pm

    Cut and paste.

  • BjW
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 07:43 am

    Mr. Trump's words were awful once again. Mrs. Clinton's actions were criminal. I will be voting for the candidate who is the least deplorable. Right now that is Mr. Trump, hands down. But I am waiting until Tuesday Nov. 8 to vote, because anything and everything is possible

    Perhaps someone can explain to me how the Democrats have stood behind Mrs. Clinton, who is downright evil. But the Republicans abandon Mr. Trump, who has always bragged about his character. That is why I did not support Mr. Trump in the primary, but will support the Republican nominee Nov. 8. For me the choice is clear, Republican vs Democrat. 

    Mr. Trump's character is similar to Presidents Clinton, Kennedy, and Johnson and many more powerful people. I tossed my rose colored glasses a long time ago. 

    Let us all pray. Whenever I am confused as how to pray, I slowly sing my revised version of the Lord's Prayer: Our Father in heaven, holy holy are you. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, only what I need to live today. Forgive us our sins, as we forgive those who sin against us. Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory. For ever and EVER. AMEN. 

    I have been praying thus exceedingly. 

     

     

  • ROBERT SMITH
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 08:04 am

    Thank you for a stand for the truth instead of pragmatism. May we all pray for those who are and will be in our government. If Paul could urger prayers for a Roman emperor who was probably Nero, can we not pray for Mr. Trump and Mrs. Clinton?

  • Elaine
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 08:09 am

    There is nothing with which I disagree in your article except that using your standards for calling on Trump to step down, why did you not ALSO call for Clinton to step down?  Trump is a bombastic adulterer who has a potty mouth and I hate that he is the Republican nominee.  HOWEVER, Clinton represents pure, unadultered evil in her call for the killing of children in the womb up to the moment of birth, the demand that people to change their religious views on abortion and LGBT behavior, as well as her persistent lying about every issue, her corruption of the State Dept, DOJ, and FBI into political attack machines as well as sources of money for herself.  Must I go on?  WHERE IS YOUR DEMAND FOR HER TO STEP DOWN AS THE DEMOCRAT NOMINEE????

    Your article is quite disappointing in only attacking the credibility and fitness of Trump to serve and giving a complete pass on Clinton's fitness to serve.  She is unreservedly the most unfit and criminal candidate EVER to run for president.  Call for her to resign and you redeem the the one-sidedness of the views you expressed.

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 08:25 am

    @Marvin - you of (shed) Communist heritage and historical genius (and perspective), have gone off the deep end. I suspect Mr. Belz forced you to do this.

    I skimmed the article and will have more to say later. 

    But off the top - - - 

    - a flawed candidate is not the same as an evil candidate

    - you have agreed that the media is the arbiter of all things, especially the NYT

    - you're a bunch of hypocrites to back out at the last minute - exactly what did you learn about Trump from this video. NOTHING ! But you did learn a lot about the media and the Republican Party.

    - you have seen the blood of the innocents and yet have laid down your arms to usher in a butcher

    - YOU have decided that God doesn't have a plan for America through Donald Trump - thus self-anointing yourself a prophet

    - the blood of our military will also be on your head. As the father of an Army Captain (promotable), this becomes crystal clear on the gravity of having Hillary Clinton as a POS POTUS.

    - I suggest the esteemed Mr. Belz and historian Marvin Olasky watch this video by Mike Cernovich. I will summarize this later.

    - where is your article on the unfitness of Hillary Clinton ? On a scale of 1 to 100 for the good of America, where do you rate each of these candidates ?

    - The Trump Train is simply the Tea Party - God fearing, fiscally conservative, Patriots, who are sick of the oligarchy. Treason is the best way to describe the Repulican Party, yet Trump is the problem ?

    - There are a lot of people laughing at your running skeered away from Trump, to name a few: a) the left, and b) yeah, the devil. They are LAO because you are a moral wimp.

    I am so disappointed in this that I am beside myself. 

    When the enemy is coming over the hill, I could care less if the sheriff has been married multiple times or said some bad things about a woman. I want him to just stop the enemy.

     

  • GWB
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 08:31 am

    An excellent treatment of the complexity of this presidential election and the character of Donald Trump.  I have never been a fan of Trump, but early on I saw him as a less damaging choice than Hillary Clinton.  He has disappointed over and over again.  I am pretty sure that I will write in "Jesus" when I go to the polls. Regardless of who wins, Jesus is still Lord!

  • Kiwi's picture
    Kiwi
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 10:21 am

    Or, you could write in Thomas Hoefling so your vote would be counted, he is a follower of Jesus, and running for America's Party.

     

  • Sun shine
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 08:36 am

    I am puzzled as to why we are shocked by Trump's comments.  Has not his character over time already shown his opinions of women?  We live in a culture that says that women are not different from men.  50 Shades of Grey sold millions of copies and has been read, and liked, by most women I know.  Pornography is at an all time high.  Why are we shocked by Trumps comments when the same attitude and verbage is used in movies, facebook, liturature (if you can call it that), TV and internet?   

  • Elizabeth
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 11:40 am

    Absolutely.  The reaction to his dumb comments is confounding considering the disgusting culture in which we live. I just cannot get over the irony and stupidity that people who were willing to support (or at least not campaign against) Trump the casino/strip club, beauty pageant owner,  eminent domain fan, yet not the Trump dirty talker.  It makes my head swim, it is so absurd.

    We live in a society that is not great, one that brainwashes children into all forms of perversity and hatred.  I want to see World and other Christian media outlets go up against the porn culture, mercilessly.  The human trafficing culture.  Incessantly, week after week, pursuing those who are doing this. 

    To do this means going up against more than what they want to do.  Because it is everywhere.  Everywhere.

     

     

     

     

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 08:46 am

    @World - your analysis will likely be on MSNBC and CNN - do you have interviews lined up ? The MSM love people like you guys. This is Yuuge for Hillary - even the evangelicals step aside.

  • EDWARD GUYER
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 09:16 am

    Thank you for  the courage to publish this editorial.  Many evangelicals insist we must support Trump despite his obvious moral and character failings.  Your willingness to receive their arrows of displeasure is most commendable.  You are the first national voice I've found that has insisted on being consistent by condemning Trump for the same moral flaws of Bill Clinton that were so broadly rebuked.   May God's name be honored through your stand.

  • Rick O
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 10:14 am

    Marvin excellent article. We know God is in control and His will shall be done! Trump was number 17 on my list of Republican candidates. I cringe during the debates when Clinton and Trump trade insults. Total embarrassment to what America has settled for this election!  Is there really a lesser of two evils I'm God's eyes? Thanks for taking a bold stand!

  • Kiwi's picture
    Kiwi
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 04:46 pm

    So many people simply haven't heard of Thomas Hoefling of America's Party.  He has overcome the hurdles to qualify as a write-in in Ohio and many other states, covering 87% of the electoral college.  A vote for him will be counted, and will count against both Trump and Clinton.  America is not well served by the false binary choice of the lesser of the two evils every four years.  So many will vote only out of their fear of Clinton. They fail to consider Trump's practice of turning against and destroying any person or group that he feels has turned against him - he would turn against christians if elected, and if he felt anything less than absolute loyalty coming from them. I will be writing in Tom Hoefling for President and Steve Schulin for Vice President

  • George A Damoff's picture
    George A Damoff
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 10:45 am

    Well-stated.  I concur.  Praying God's mercy on our nation as His church is called to lead in repentance in every sphere.

    Last night in a gathering of Christians in our home we had friends, Peter and Phoebe, from Uganda with us.  They shared about the dismal state of the federal government in their land a decade ago and how the Church responded with repentance in fasting and much prayer.  Inspite of corrupt politicians and judges, the nation was transformed and continues to the present to thrive in the gospel of Jesus Christ.  Their testimony made clear that the ballot box was not the means by which God saves!  After they shared, we gathered around them to pray fro them and their ministry.  Then Peter prayed for us!  It came with power as he cried out to God to give the church in the US the wisdom recently displayed in his nation of Uganda.  May our God mightly answer his cry!

  • Noe Banda
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 10:53 am

    Thank you WORLD! I applaud this stand, this is exactly my position as well.

  • Katie
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 11:18 am

    I am still undecided and praying for a miracle. But I tend to agree with those saying this might be too little, too late.

  • Marilyn Jean
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 11:25 am

    I am truly saddened that you take this view.  God used Samson, and certainly he was worse than Trump.  Donald Trump is repentant of his former self.  He did not murder anyone like David of old.  God is using this man and it grieves me tremendously that the Christian community does not see it.

  • SweetHarmony
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 11:37 am

    As a 'millennial' and avid reader of World Magazine since childhood, I want to say a thousand THANK YOU'S for writing this column!! I have been shocked and appalled to see so many Christians defending Trump this last year. It's especially been grevious since this last tape came out - I've been hearing Christians compare Trump to King David (there is no comparison, as Trump has not even apologized for his comments - he only apologized that people were offended by them!). I've also been hearing Christians - some of whom I deeply respect - argue that the women Trump is around are seeking that type of attention, and thus what he bragged about doing is not sexual assault. As someone who has been sexually assaulted, the idea that evangelicals are actively promoting the idea of 'she asked for it,' simply sickens me. I'm so thankful that World Magazine has taken a stand. It gives me hope, and helps stem the intense disillusionment that I and many of my generation are feeling about the state of our evangelical leaders - many whom we were raised listening to and respecting. Thank you, thank you, thank you. And thank you for so consistently speaking out about anything in regards to sexual assault, human trafficking, etc. You actually put your journalism where your mouth is, so to speak.

  • HOLLI SMITH
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 11:39 am

    I am so glad to finally see a conservative Christian magazine/voice finally take this stand!  I have been so disappointed to have seen so little of this from evangelicals after this last, final, devastating peek into the true nature and character of the Republican candidate.  Thank you so much for finally stepping out in faith and saying this!!

  • LISA GEORGESON
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 11:45 am

    If there was any chance at all that any other canidate than Trump or Hillary could win, I would go for them.  Unfortunately, there is honestly no other choice but Trump v. Hillary.

    You've got to make the choice.

  • MTJanet
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 09:36 pm

    I agree.  I think the Christians who lived under the reign of Rome's evil leaders wish they could have had a vote.  I believe that we must vote for the one who will do the most good - and that is pathetic that it is a man named Trump at this time.  A good article was in the Wall Street Journal on Thurs.  http://www.wsj.com/articles/should-christians-vote-for-trump-1476294992?...     Am I endorsing Trump?  No.  But there is a  good case for voting for him and against Clinton.  Especially get the part about who William Wilberforce allied himself with to abolish slavery.  Strange bedfellows working together for good can accomplish good.  And we know the evil we have been forced to contend with under Obama's reign.  

  • Trig52
    Posted: Mon, 10/17/2016 07:56 pm

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    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 07:36 am

    @Trig52 - well said.

  • Matt Y's picture
    Matt Y
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 12:21 pm

    Well said, and good, fairminded examination of the objections - more fairminded than I could probably have been. This is a refreshing stand on principle. Thank you!

  • austinbeartux's picture
    austinbeartux
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 12:25 pm

    Dr. Olasky and editors--Praise God for WORLD standing up and taking a very difficult position based on principles, ideals, and faith.

    I'm fascinated by all the comments about this article.  It seems evangelical Christians can be in either of two categories:

    1) These are very pragmatic/practical people, and/or people loyal to the Republican party.  As long as one candidate is better than the other, the person will vote for the "lesser of two evils."  It doesn't matter if both lie, cheat, steal, are repugnant, etc.--as long as one is the lesser of the two evils, the person will vote for him.  Or, the person is so loyal to the Republican Party, it doesn't matter who is the party's candidate.  They're sticking with him!

    2) These are the people who are idealistic.  While they'd admit that every candidate is a sinner (all people are), they want someone who has good character, integrity, and is honest, consistent, reliable, etc.  This person thinks the candidate must "earn" their vote.  If the candidate(s) has not earned his vote, then the person cannot/will not vote for him.

    While I fall into #2, it's eye-opening to me how many evangelical Christians are in #1.  Not judging--just observing.  : )

    As for me, I support the Consitution Party (Darrell Castle).  www.constitutionparty.com

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    phillipW
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 12:36 pm

    Not that blame needs to be cast, but in my humble opinion, the American voter is to blame for the mess we are in.  By nominating Clinton and Trump, the people that cast ballots for these two cretins deserve the mess we are in.  WE have the government WE deserve.  And no, I have never supported either candidate, nor will I support either; ever.  Until a man (yes, a man) of integrity with some semblance of morals shows himself and runs for something, I will withhold my vote.  I cannot in good conscience vote for a lesser of two evils, or vote for any of the above.  These two people belong in jail, not in the White House.

  • Brendan Bossard's picture
    Brendan Bossard
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 11:04 pm

    You are absolutely correct; but we Christians, the salt, are even more at fault.  Too many of us voted to nominate Trump of all the Republican candidates.

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 07:39 am

    @phillipW - if the leaders are corrupt, how will the children learn ? I think you should read a bit about "The Frankfurt School."

  • Greg We
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 12:46 pm

    Isn't the video over 10 years old? And don't you think the media and others will be watching every move Trump will make, if he's ellected. That's a better risk than relying on the political elites from both party's and the media to report honestly about a President Hillary.

  • Patriot46
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 01:21 pm

    My vote will be for Mike Pence.

  • ROBERT BROWN
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 03:26 pm

    Me too!

    Gov. Pence is the only one at the top of the ticket that is a  follower of Christ. 

    President of a 50-50 Senate could be a believer!

  • SonoitaMike
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 01:05 pm

    Thanks I hadn't right of his role in the Senate.

  • TimJohn
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 01:59 pm

    Unbelievable ... World goes full support of Hillary

    This article is not journalism, it's corruption of journalism.  Trumps lacker room comments he made while joking with this friend where not spoken in public or spoken to any woman, therefore Trump did not "sexually assaulted women" and these commend do not "revealed a sexual predator" - as this article says. 

    World does not pass it's own test to call for Trump to step down.  I love World when they make a bold stand for truth, but this article on this day, 10/12/2016, is likely the begining of the end of World. World has no right to call for Trump to step down under these false statements while ignoring Hillary's actualy crimes.

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 07:41 am

    @TimJohn - totally agree. World has gone of the deep end, clutching their pearls.

  • TOM&DARLENE TIBBETTS
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 07:41 pm

    We agree 100%!!!!  We are so terribly disappointed in Marvin's article.  Tom and Darlene Tibbetts, Woodbury, MN

  • Mike2016
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 01:59 pm

    Where is the angst over Hillary Clinton Mr. Olasky? What about the attack on our Constitution? Our high courts? Our freedom to worship and mention the name of Jesus Christ in public? Are we to be lulled to sleep by smooth speech and insincere sound bites? I believe that it's been so long since we've had a public figure speak his or her mind that it shocks us to hear an honest opinion -- no matter how crudely expressed. So now World joins with the dishonest newspapers, network TV pundits, and every serpent of every stripe as they clap their filthy hands in glee as our country is about to be turned over to thugs, thieves, character assasins and liars. As for me, I'll vote Trump because it is a vote that may help save our constitutional-republic form of government. Wake up folks! You are in danger of singing an anthem that will stick in your throats.

  • TOM&DARLENE TIBBETTS
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 08:00 pm

    We agree with you 100%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • KEITH TILLOTSON
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 02:24 pm

    Marvin,

    Thank you for standing strong.  Keep it up!!

    Tillotson family

     

  • D Squier
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 02:24 pm

    Please note, he was sorry for his actions. Same as David three thousand years ago. Do we believe he has changed since then? We cannot really know.

    And then there is Hillary who denies anyone was hurt by her tragic actions with HER email server, at least not yet, maybe.

    One of these will be elected, should not we take our responsibility serious?

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 02:25 pm

    @World - you are an absolutely great resource that I have come to know and love. The World and Everything in it are a mainstay for me and my wife. I took the Marvin Olasky challenge and ditched Fox News, and my "knowledge base" - by focusing on World for news and commentary - increased dramatically. Not to mention a lowering of my blood pressure.

    But as I heard John Lennox say - "even an expert, outside of his field, is as dumb as the next guy." So, despite your esteemed credentials, you are out of your league in this Trump dis-endorsement. You have no more "insight" into what's right than me or any other of our readers. You have done a grave disservice to your readership and to America. As I earlier mentioned, you have usurped God's hand in Donald Trump and our nation, walking off the field because you're insulted. And all because the Washington Post, CNN, and the NYT raised their eyebrows at "the right".

    "Giving up" doesn't seem to be a biblical response. We'll be 50 years in the hole with Hillary - Obamacare ===> single payer, open borders, abortion, "bake me a cake", etc. etc.

    And STILL - World Magazine can't answer the question - "Why did Trump win the Republican Primary?" Marvin Olasky puts all of the brouhaha in context, but even Mr. Belz can't see it, and then gets chastened by Mike Huckabee for wrongly lamenting "Where are the Christian leaders?"

    I'm sorry if this ruffles feathers. But "Hallelujah" is not the proper response for ushering in 8 years of Hillary Clinton.

     

  • Brendan Bossard's picture
    Brendan Bossard
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 11:14 pm

    You haven't answered the question - "How do you square voting to nominate Trump with God's Word?"

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 07:45 am

    @Brendan - that's a tough question. But what you're actually saying is a sinner cannot be President. Plus you never actually address what I say.

  • Brendan Bossard's picture
    Brendan Bossard
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 01:48 pm

    Don't be foolish.  I do not, have never, and never will believe that a sinner cannot be president.  I have also never said any such thing.  Don't put words in my mouth.

    You said, "World Magazine can't answer the question - 'Why did Trump win the Republican Primary?'"  so I addressed it with my question because I believe that Trump would not have won the nomination if 1/3 of Christians had not voted for him in the primary.  Sin is not excusable just because it is understandable, and I believe that the 1/3 sinned by selecting Trump from all of the other candidates.  Now everyone will be paying the consequences of their choice.

  • Stephen Ford
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 02:38 pm

    I do not concur with the idea that any candidate vetted and nominated by the political parties should step aside.  In this era where lies travel faster around the world than truth, we see the liberal/progressive hydra of candidates and their “news” allies for what they are.
    Yes, Donald Trump is imperfect as are we all.  I saw Herman Cain pilloried for far less than what impeached former president William Jefferson Clinton did.
    Donald Trump would be so much better for this nation that Hillary would - not for himself but who he would bring to his administration, nominate for the Supreme Court and other Federal courts, and how he would chnage the way we do business with the nations of the world..    

  • BBowen
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 03:33 pm

    I couldn't agree more. During the Clinton years we said that character matters. If we support Trump today, we forfiet the right to ever say it again.

  • tavo
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 06:24 pm

    Character matters about Hillary too.

  • Patriot46
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 04:58 pm

    A lie about our national security (HRC: Benghazi was all about a video) VS. words about sexual assaultive behaviors!

  • ThieuTiet's picture
    ThieuTiet
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 05:15 pm

    Hi Dr. O, I love your balanced & just take on the issue w/ candidates' choice, especially your ending. Your eloquent words of acknowledging God's sovereignty w/ praise included are much better than the common "whatever it is God's in control."

    It's much easier for me to "look the other way" & vote for Trump along w/ the logic of Supreme Court justice appointment. BUT, just as you said: do we trust that Trump will keep his words. Also, does he remember what his words were, on what issue? Being influenced & swayed by so many political winds.

    Here's my question, if any reader here can answer (Is this my political naïveté, or is it doable): Why do we have to restrict ourselves by 2 parties? Especially while we vocally are against it & bemoaning about it?

    If we don't like the 2 party system, why not break the mold when opportunity presents itself right now?

    Enough people on both sides are repulsed of their party's candidates. If many Republicans vote for Trump to avoid a Jezabel of a Clinton, then why can't we pool our votes together for ONE minor party candidates? Joining force to upset the dissatisfied & compromising voters!

    Why can't we do that?

    All we need are: 1/ to agree on ONE party w/ a constitutional platform, w/ respected candidates. For me I support Darrell Castle & Scott Bradley of the Constitution Party, but I also heard of Evan McMullin.

    2/ Someone to head this. Someone w/ a political activist's savvy, yet w/ above reproach character who habitually practices Eph 4:29 in speaking & writing (let no corrupt word proceed out of your mouth, but what is good ... that it may impart grace to the hearers), not easily given to anger.

    It may look improbable, but is it impossible?

    How impossible did it look for a sea to part just by someone raising a hand over it? Or by mere marching around a city wall & tooting their horns for it to fall? Or dipping in a dirty water to wash off leprosy? Or feeding 5000 w/ some fish & a few loaves of bread? Or losing life to gain it?

    To practice 2 Chronical 7:14 "If My people called by My name humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, ... and heal their land," musn't we humble ourselves & turn from our wicked ways first? Could leaning on our own understanding, as we are warned not to, be considered wicked? Isn't our reasoning of "a vote for a 3rd party is a vote for Hillary" an absurd logic for God fearing people, and thus not pleasing to Him?

    ****Then, isn't this the time for God's people to show that we truly trust in God, set our own logic aside & watch Him do the impossible?!**** 

    Just as you said He might not deliver us from this political mess, but at least we obey and NOT lean on our own political reasoning, as we have been for so long!

     

     

  • VSKluth's picture
    VSKluth
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 05:47 pm

    Might have been best if the article weren't written.  WND is stuck on the horns of a self-induced dilemma.  Applying previous verdicts to a sitting President with clear, provable violations to a Presidential candidate with highly likely and plausible violations - and one excluding a verdict against clear, provable but unprosecuted violations by the other candidate - raises more issues than comforts.  American Christian interests are broader than our leaders' marital infidelity and lewd behavior.  Daniel records a vision where God "setteth up over [the kingdom of men] the basest of men" (Dan 4:17).  We shouldn't be surprised that we have debased leaders, and noble men like Ted Cruz are villified. Peter wrote that "prayers ... be made for all men; for kings and for all that are in authority, that WE may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty."  Which candidate will better enable those conditions?

  • tavo
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 05:50 pm

    You are setting yourselves as moral judges between Hillary Clinton's and Donald Trump's actions.

  • Florida Cracker's picture
    Florida Cracker
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 06:09 pm
  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 10:00 pm

    @Florida - the article at the link doesn't discuss anything specific about Trump, it's all by innuendo. Yes, I listened to the tape, but this article is just "blah blah blah Trump's a horrible person"

  • Florida Cracker's picture
    Florida Cracker
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 08:58 am

    Mr. Peck, thank you for your comment. I think the diffrerence between us is that you are sold out for Trump, and I am not  For me the choice between candidates this year is the worst of my lifetime. But again you dirfference with me is that, while I had a different perspective from World's, I did not say I was  for Trump - not that my being for or against Trump will have the slightest difference. 

  • MEREDITH ROE
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 06:19 pm

    I do not agree with you...very strongly I do agree.  I have been a World subscriber for at least 20 years and will not cancel, however, please consider what you are saying because is a criminal more moral than an adulter?  And with the criminal entering the White House, along would come a big time adulter.  

     

  • hawaiicharles
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 06:46 pm

    I applaud World for taking a stand, though I would say it came far too late.  I frankly don't understand why so many people are up in arms about the 2005 recording.  For me, it's a comparitively minor item in the long list of character flaws that make Mr. Trump unfit for the office of president.  Far more important are his complete lack of impulse control, lack of respect for human dignity, juvenile attitude toward criticism (even the constructive kind) and, certainly not least, a demonstrated lack of understanding about the important political and cultural issues that a president needs to address.  All of those problems were readily apparent more than a year ago.

    On a side note, thanks very much to several other commenters to mentioned Tom Hoefling.  I had not neard his name until today.  World could have done a great service to its readers by reporting on him, and was as Darrell Castle of the Constitution Party.

     

  • M or L Pasarilla
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 07:00 pm

    Thank you for not falling to the false choice of the lesser of two evils, while encouraging us all to stand against evil, no matter which side of the aisle it originates. We are reaping what our culture has been sowing for decades. Both the Democratic and Republican party candidates show themselves to be lawless and immoral - Mrs. Clinton's behavior is worthy of a sincere crimanl prosecution for her destruciton of emails (and that's just one lawless act), whille Mr. Trump is the personification of sexual unfaithfulness and a willingness to do whatever is necessary to promote himself (and to have his way with women). God have mercy. I would rejoice if Trump moved aside for someone else, presumably his running mate. But barring that miracle, may the Lord give us grace to stand faithful under the chastening hand of God.

  • twmiller's picture
    twmiller
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 07:43 pm

    Why jump into the fray?  Your statement accomplishes nothing, except to further guarantee Hillary Clinton's election.  Why do you feel compelled to advise him to withdraw, but not her?  They are both heinous people, but she is woefully worse than he.  It is arguable whether he can be trusted, but he still is the only one of the two candidates who has promised to appoint strict constitutionalists to the Supreme Court.  She definitely will NOT.  And if people over whom you have persuasive influence elect not to vote, isn't that likely to effect Congressional elections, with a thin Republican Senate majority now?  Your short-sighted and irresponsible ego-trip may have the unintended consequence of securing the Democrats control of one or both Houses of Congress, as well as the Presidency and Supreme Court.   Shame on you.  Signed, a faithful 20-year WORLD subscriber 

  • ANDY&SUE PECK
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 08:27 pm

    I am so disappointed in World. I hope you enjoy a Hillary presidency.

  • Nick Stuart's picture
    Nick Stuart
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 09:36 pm

    Like so many other Never Trumpers, World will run four years of "Ain't it awful" stories about the Clinton outrage du jour, and there will be plenty of them.

  • TOM&DARLENE TIBBETTS
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 08:03 pm

    Agree 100%! :-(  Hillary is pure evil.

  • charles jandecka
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 08:58 pm

    You have believed the lie! Should Trump have a household idol before being POTUS, have multtiple lovers afterward and then commit a murder - God very well could use him. After all, that is the story of King David.

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 07:48 am

    @Charles - correct ! World harrumphs that God couldn't use Trump !

  • Paul B. Taylor's picture
    Paul B. Taylor
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 09:47 pm

    Trump now has to realize that only Jesus is the mediator between God and man.  If he accepts, by the grace of God, faith in Christ and justification that can only come through that faith, he will be an even more venerable candidate.  Let Donald Trump open his literal interpretation of the Bible from the original Greek and Hebrew texts and seek to find peace: both his own and our great nation's.  Then a real revival of the Gospel might start.  Let him pray. Let us pray because the result of a Clinton presidency or a Clinton withdrawal leading to a possible Sanders' victory would mean a nation without the light of Christ and the resulting evil of such of an America.  

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 07:51 am

    @World - this commenting system is dumb, just like the old one. You kept telling me you're doing something, but it's no better than the last one. Where are the likes ? Or just go to the Facebook model. When I go to reply to a reply, I lose the reply to look at, so I have to copy it off, etc. 

    Plus, with 4 pages of comments, it's wearing me out. First I comment on page 3, then everything collapses. So I un-collapse it to find myself on page 1. So I click to page 3. Then I un-collapse that, etc. etc. etc. Please re-consider, I have been harranguing you for 2 years on this. And now I think it's worse.

  • family8plus6sofar
    Posted: Mon, 10/17/2016 02:57 pm

    That may be (about how awful the commenting system is), but the is the longest comment section I've seen generated in a long time (although as I'm commenting on your "Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 07:51 am" post Wm Peck and it's right above this, I don't see the same problem you seem to be talking about).  

    I don't know how it can be fixed, but to World Magazine: PLEASE ~ DO NOT go to commenting through Facebook!  We do not have Fb and will NOT ever use Fb, for numerous reasons which I won't go into here.  To be honest, I don't see any problem at all.  Now, I'm going back to reading the rest of the comments.  

    Oh, and by the way, I agree with many of the commenters on here that if you were going to call on Trump to resign, then you should do the same for Clinton.  And I voted for Ben Carson in the primary in my state; I'll vote for other candidates on the ballot next month, but short of God telling me to vote for Trump, I'll likely leave that spot blank this time around (though I think that ANY real write in candidate should be allowed w/o having to "qualify" to be counted). 

  • jnewc
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 10:39 pm

    R Reagan did not use power to gratify himself,  However I am not thinking of another President who failed to use power for himself. Four years of a shake up by Trump might be just about right. JIM

  • bjfloy
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 10:42 pm

    Thank you. We'll written.

  • Wilebo's picture
    Wilebo
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 10:59 pm

    World Magazine stands out from all other sources. The fact is the usual media is playing both sides against the middle. Reminds me of a story line from "That Hideous Strength" by C.S. Lewis. Thank you World for telling us what we need to hear. 

  • GEORGE ROBINSON
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 11:07 pm

    By your standard, Dr. Olasky, who is fit for the presidency?  Are you recommending Christians do not vote, that they bury this talent in the sand?  Do you encourage them to vote for Gary Johnson, or Dr. Stein, who is even more left than Secretary Clinton?

    The video was 11 years old - are your standards greater than God's, that He can forgive an offense - but you cannot?  11 years old - and yet we have daily revelations of Hillary Clinton's corruption that is currently going on.  You realize that this stand you are taking in this magazine is of great value to the Clinton Campaign - for a video 11 years old.  It is very easy to hurry up and give an opinion.

    Are Christians supposed to ignore the reality of the situation?  The choice is Mrs. Clinton or Mr. Trump.  That is the choice.  YOu have offered no help except to stand down.  Do you think that is wise 

  • jnewc
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 11:11 pm

    So what is World Magazine saying?  Would you rather have a president who advocates killing babies from conception to birth; promotes same-sex marriage; who allows our Bengazi ambasador and three other Americans to be murdered while she watches and then tells whopper lies to deny her complicity; who lies over and over again about her emails, what's in them and how many there are; who sells access to the Secretary of State's office through the demanding of contributions to her Foundation, the size of which determines when and how much access one is granted?

    I have respected and counted on World Magazine for years to give us the truth and honest direction about world events.  Now I am unbeleivably disappointed and shocked at the vindictive direction given to Donald Trump.  While I certainy do not agree with all his retoric and foolish statements, he is without a doubt a better candidate then Hillary Clinton.  Dragging up the past to use against him is the Democratic way to divert attention from Hillary's dangerous and all to frequent hate-filled actions to accomplish her selfish motives.  We have two candidates.  Live with it and choose the only one that will work to save this country - Donald Trump.  It is too late to substitute in someone else.  Give him a chance.  Penny Newcomb

  • SonoitaMike
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 01:14 pm

    That's what i think they are saying but aren't that direct with it!

  • Robin Wiggins
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 11:14 pm

    Romans 12:21 teaches us to overcome evil with good. It appears that we have been presented by our political leading parties candidates that do not represent good, but evil. Trump has been presented as an alternative to Clinton's evil policies and positions, but he does not represent the good.

    What many of us find most offensive in Clinton is her support of abortion. But let us keep in mind that the best way to prevent abortion is to not have sex and that certainly is not an attitude that Trump supports.

    So here is the challenge: between now and November 8th let’s all stop talking, debating and campaigning for our favorite candidate and aggressively seek God.Let us lay down our opinions at the cross and ask Him to direct us how to vote. Our God may direct millions of us to even write in the name of the best person to lead our county. If the Holy Spirit directs the campaign then it will be successful.

  • MATT DOHERTY
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 11:31 pm

    Thank you for standing up for good moral principels.   Matt D

  • STEVE WILLIAMS
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 11:34 pm

    I respect your thinking and reasoning, but respectfully disagree with your conclusion that calling for President Clinton's resignation demands you do the same regarding Donald Trump's candidacy.  While I'm disgusted with Trumps braggadocious words, I think there is a difference between a sitting president who is proven to be a sexual predator in the Oval Office, and someone who made a boast over a decade earlier.  If we see a trail of women who confirm what the video tape implies about Donald Trump's actions as we clearly did Bill Clinton's, I would wholeheartedly agree with calling for him to step aside.  There are claims of his conversions both spiritually and politically/ideologically since he uttered those words.  Do we not give a person a chance to show a change in behavior?  I'm sorry, but for me, when it comes to trusting leadership on such important critical issues in our government, I trust Mr. Trump far more than I can trust Hillary, and not voting against her in a meaningful way is a vote for her to become the nation's most powerful leader.  Frankly, I'll trust my own instincts on the matter. 

  • Soapbxn's picture
    Soapbxn
    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 11:45 pm

    While I agree with most of the article I am bothered by the assumptions circulating  that Trump committed assaults or attacks on women based on a lewd immature dialogue caught on tape over ten years ago.  So far there is no physical evidence. Trump is certainly crude, obnoxious, even horrifying in some of his behavior, but we need to be careful to 'convict' without proof the most strident assumptions.  The man certainly has guts and there is the possibility he could do well by our country - he has been very outspoken, even before throwing his hat into the presidential arena, that he loves this country.  Clinton on the other hand will destroy this country.  Hence we have a choice of Trump, remembering the man is unsaved with acutely obvious need of a savior but with some good ideas, or a woman who is also unsaved, has knowingly and obviously broken the law and has mostly destructive ideas for our country.  There will be no saints in this race, no matter who at this point might replace Trump.

  • Brendan Bossard's picture
    Brendan Bossard
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 12:23 am

    Some thoughts:

    1.  Congratulations, Mr. Olasky!  You have just hit the comment jackpot!

    2.  Those who are most critical of Mr. Olasky and WORLD are grasping what they believe to be the last shreds of their earthly kingdom with a death-grip.  They are frightened.  They are so desperate that they will call wisdom foolishness, and accuse those who dare not cast their lot with a reprobate of abetting evil.  Set your sights on Heaven, brethren, and cry out to God!

    3.  There are those who despair.  Well, I feel the same way, too, sometimes.  Then I remember that when Elijah felt like he was the only one zealous for God in a pagan, persecuting land, God took him to Mount Horeb and said in a whisper--after a grand show of earthquake and fireworks--that God would turn Israel topsy-turvy through Elijah's hand.  And, by the way, there were seven thousand other like-minded people in Israel.  Still a minority in the eyes of the Israelite Census Bureau, but good heavens, what a crowd in God's hands! (And don't forget the angels that encircle us!)

    4.  "Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of scoffers; but his delight is in the law of the LORD, and on his law he meditates day and night. He is like a tree planted by streams of water that yields its fruit in its season, and its leaf does not wither. In all that he does, he prospers. The wicked are not so, but are like chaff that the wind drives away. Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous; for the LORD knows the way of the righteous, but the way of the wicked will perish." (Psalms 1:1-6, ESV2011)

    5.  God is separating wheat from tares.

    6.  "When I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or command the locust to devour the land, or send pestilence among my people, if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land." (2 Chronicles 7:13-14, ESV2011)

  • hawaiicharles
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 12:35 am

    Very wise words, Mr. Bossard.  Thanks for sharing!

     

  • Steve Shive
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 07:31 am

    Thanks Brendan. Good thoughts. I guess Trump is a polarizing influence! What I like about Mr Olasky's aritcle is that he made a stand. He defended it. It did it in good conscience. There are others who will, and have, dissent from this. To throw stones at him is silly. There is not perfect answer to this dilemma. But one pretty close to that is trusting God as we make the best most informed choices we can. "Informed" isn't always, often?, gleaned from the pages of any periodical. But God's Word would qualify. Thanks for that reminder. I often like to read and re-read 1 Kings 22: 19 and following. There is much that goes on in the heavenlies beyond our understanding and comprehension. Trump and Clinton (any of them) are barely ants in the big picture. Maybe molecules?

  • Robyn Candell
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 12:23 am

    Thank you for finally taking a stand.  

  • Steve SoCal
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 12:34 am

    It does seem like "World" should take the same position on Hillary Clinton based on her e-mail scandal and destruction of evidence, her dishonesty about Benghazi, the issues about the Clinton Foundation, etc.  And that is not to mention her pushing of abortion and other progressive amoral issues.  Certainly these are also morally reprehensible, signs of very poor judgment and poor integrity, and they must undermine her fitness for the office of president every bit as much as Trump's vulgarity.

    Hillary is running for president, not Bill, and so the same standards should apply to her... not just to him.

    As I wrote earlier, I think the magazine's decision may be the right one, but shouldn't it be applied evenly?  Otherwise it does come across as taking sides when both sides are similarly unfit.

  • Elizabeth
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 01:24 am

    Vince Foster.  Does anyone remember him?  World might want to dig into that story.  

    Whitewater. There's another one I've been waiting to see resurrected. 

    If you can find the time to focus on ELEVEN year old stupid Trump words, could you look into these two unsettled items?

    There's a lot more there than mere words and go back even farther than 11 years!  

     

  • Hutch
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 02:12 am

    Thank you! You have my support. 

  • nevertheless's picture
    nevertheless
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 03:48 am

    You, by making this judgement, at this particular time just weeks prior to the election, are making a very serious error.

     

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 07:15 am

    So World now agrees with Hillary that Donald is "deplorable and irredeemable". Um, what ???

    Sin is the currency of the left, and its stock is up. World runs for cover because the NYT points the finger at Donald.

    And World agrees that the arbiter of all things moral is the NYT.

    It is quite easy to defend Donald Trump against Hillary et al. 

    Will World now write an expose on Martin Luther King's sexual exploits ?

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    Marvin Olkasky let his pride puff him up as an almost member of the George W. Bush Administration, as he played a part in defining compassionate conservatism for the new President (to be). Marvin got chewed up and spit out by the press, for something that was not even a hill of beans.

    Now - World and Marvin have usurped God's hand in staying the onslaught of innoncents killed in the womb, single-payer health-care, open borders, Supreme Court Justices, and a world aflame. World has set themselves up as all-knowing of God's plan, stepping in front of the Trump train while the train of onslaught runs unimpeded.

    And Albert Mohler announces that Donald Trump should be thrown in jail. 

    I expect every World staff member to resign who has ever said anything remotely like what Donald Trump said. In fact, if they even had such a vile thought, they should immediately resign. Plus, any World member who has ever looked at pornography should resign. I expect World will be interveiwing each staff member, with immediate termination for anyone who has sinned so grievously.

  • MarkMacMan
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 07:59 am

    I am not at all surprised by this recording - but "unfit for power" - I would say we are all unfit. 
    In the last years, I have been paying more attention to actions than words. I find talk (even "locker room banter") is cheap - often VERY cheap! But actions reveal the true character of a person - when I hear Washington folks condemn "big banks and Wall Street" and then, when those same financial institutions are in trouble, they send trucks of money to bail them out, I don't trust the words. So, what are Trump's actions. Matthew 7 spends a lot of time on actions vs words - "by their fruit you will recognize them" - I am sure each of us has said things that we truly regret. Not to let Trump off, he is a sinner, but is he really "unfit for power" - I know I am unfit.

  • Janet B
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 08:12 am

    I am not a Donald Trump defender. But it struck me this morning: Donald Trump came into this presidential race knowing who he is, and knowing his past.  In fact, it was because of who he is - a brash and bold and, yes, ruthless businessman - that he chose to run and address the problems that he saw in the nation.  I doubt he ever thought, "Gee, I hope they don't find out who I really am and all the things I've done and said."

    And the people voted for the brash and ruthless man, when they had other people with better quality lives and ideas to vote for.  So what does that say about what the people want?

    I am aware that my disgust for this race, and for the MSM media that delights in this muckraking, has kept me from paying attention to my local races.  And that is dangerous, because if we want to change the type of people we have to choose from, we need to start with our own hearts being first submitted to God, and then dedicated to changing our local and state public servants.  After all, the federal government rules us with the complicity of those we elect locally.

    Ultimately, We the People are responsible for the choices we have now.

  • CAROL KURLOWICH
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 09:01 am

    Thank you so much for this courageous stand. Carol Kurlowich

  • Amy L
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 09:17 am

    The rock music you use for bumper music on your podcast and many of the movies, books and music you review from a God-hating culture are a great part of the problem that has led to a corrupt society who nominates Donald Trump in the first place. WORLD, you are sending me a mixed message.

  • Freshfaith
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 11:07 am

    World is out of line and promoting Hilary by default. Asking Donald Trump and the Hillary and Bill team to resign would be balanced. Hillary and Bill are package, and together they are just as hideous as Donald Trump. Neither candidates are concerned about Christian faith or morality. World is out of line and promoting Hilary by default, something is not right about this picture.

  • JOHN B STONE DMIN's picture
    JOHN B STONE DMIN
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 01:55 pm

    Thanks, I respectfully disagree, and I love Jesus.  There's no argument on earth that will convince me that a candidate who has won all the primaries has huge attended rallies, and who has a list of conservative judges lined up for the Supremes and who looks and acts like a fighter, who i snot a member of the establishment should drop out-I can hear the cheers already in the Clinton Cabal-which you seem to be supporting by this article. I am not ashamed to have my name seen either as some apparently are.  I suggest you review Eric Metaxas essay in the Wall Street Journal.  

     

     

  • standforTRUTH
    Posted: Tue, 10/25/2016 10:11 pm

    John B Stone, DMIN,   Excellent suggestion.  Thank you.  This article is exactly the "knee-jerk" reaction that the Hillary camp was hoping for.  It is a very old stratedgy...Divide and Conquer.

  • JOHN B STONE DMIN's picture
    JOHN B STONE DMIN
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 01:57 pm

    I love Jesus. I respectfully disagree with you. Read Eric Metaxas Wall Street Journal and see why-Metaxas articulates exactly my sentiments. Furthermore, your hit article only helps the Clinton Cabal.

  • fatsmontana
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 02:44 pm

    John B - I respectfully disagree. WORLD's job is to provide commentary from a Christian worldview...not a strategy on how to defeat Democrats. From a political perspective (the us vs them theology) it might make sense to vote for Trump, but there is no "vote against" button in the polling booth and from a Christian perspective I see no biblical defense on why to support somebody who we are warned clearly to avoid in the Bible. 

    At the end of the day, Trump and Clinton are the same person: both support planned parenthood, both support Gay Rights, Both support punishing NC for trying to protect kids from the Trans issue.  I have yet to see an issue where Christians should be up in arms for Trump.  

     

  • Harley Wozniak
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 02:06 pm

    To steal a quote from Lord of the Rings, "tell me, friend, when did World Magazine the Wise abandon Reason for Madness?" I haven't felt this betrayed by a friend in a long time. I started everyday listening to The World and Everything in it podcast and backed World financially for years. No longer. I'm cancelling all support. I'm not sure if it's pressure from your liberal globalist elite peers that got to you or the liberal undercover subversives that are attempting to twist the Church and it's Message, but for you to claim that you had to do this to be morally consistent with your criticism of Bill Clinton is really, and I mean really grasping at straws. Then to say at this point we should appoint another candidate is laughable. For those of you looking for an easy way out, an excuse, a loophole, a justification for backing out of hard things, you have found one in World Magazine. May God judge you graciously for those hurt by this decision. I won't be a part.

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 07:23 pm

    @Harly - I feel the exact same way. I ditched Fox News, at Marvin Olasky's suggestion, and it was an awakening. I too listen to World Radio (The World and Everything In it) - it's amazing. I didn't articulate betrayal yesterday, but that is how I feel. Not only to me, but to my son who's in the Army, and to the innocent babies who will go under Hillary's knife.

  • Kevin Abegg
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 03:02 pm

    Amen! I applaud World's willingness to hold Christ, the Gospel and our faith in God's sovereignty (not our politicians promises) first and foremost. National repentance and change takes place one individual at a time. "What does it profit a man to gain the world but lose his soul"...What does it profit a nation? 

  • ROCHELLE KREYKES
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 03:07 pm

    Even Dennis Prager is talking about the article "Unfit for Power"...and not in a positive way! I had a well thought out response and my computer decided to reconfigure/update before I finished and I lost it all :(   Anyway, no vote for Trump IS a vote for Hillary. While in office, serving us, I might add, she has been a liar, thief, manipulator, selfish, acvocate for death of the unborn child in the womb, is NO respecter of Christians, double standard queen, looks out for her own self interests, takes $ for personal gain from middle eastern countries where human atrocities abound because of the pagan, wicked governmnets....but she has no qualms about that. She is a flip flopper-she previously was a "strong"supporter of traditional marriage -insert eye roll-what happened there ? You at least KNOW what you are getting with Hillary-and it isn't good.  Fellow Christian voters, think beyond Donald Trumps abrasive personality to the big picture.  The appointment of supreme court justices, freedom of religion and speech, upholding the constitution, protecting our country from Isis, and all this entails for the future of our children and grandchildren living in this country!!  Life as we know it/knew it is erroding quickly! We need to be in deep prayer for the sins of our nation and this election.  That our choices for POTUS are this abysmal should come as no great surprise.  Our government has promoted a secular worldview that has eliminated God from every area and we as christians have sat back and let them....God have mercy on us.

  • Nick Stuart's picture
    Nick Stuart
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 03:33 pm

    Mr. Olasky and the Editors of World Magazine are content with control of the US Department of Justice, including the office of Attorney General, FBI, ATF, Secret Service, US Marshals being turned over to Hillary Clinton.

    Wow. Just wow.

  • greatjoy92
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 06:08 pm

    We don't need a new Republican candidate. There are other candidates in the race already, from third parties. Gary Johnson, of the Libretarian party, actually has a shot if enough people will give him a chance. He stands for freedom, small government, and the Constitution. This could be the year that enough people get fed-up with the terrible candidates our two-party system keeps feeding us. Let's elect a third party!

  • Steve SoCal
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 08:56 pm

    Is he the pothead (marijuana smoker), who stopped smoking for his presidential run so his mind can be as sharp as a knife, who often can't answer the most basic questions about international current events?

  • Eileen's picture
    Eileen
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 07:03 pm

    Thank you so much for this article.  I appreciate the godly way inwhich World does things.  You definitely have my support.  After reading Erick Erickson's piece about the candidates, Reconsidering My Opposition to Trump, I've been strongly leaning in the direction of writing in a candidate rather than voting for Trump.  http://theresurgent.com/coming-to-terms-with-trump/I

    You just mentioned that you don't endorse candidates, but maybe you would like to look at the link and possibly give your readers, information about the write-in candidate that Erick Erickson just showed support for: http://theresurgent.com/i-just-donated-to-evan-mcmullin-for-president/

     

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 07:34 pm

    Bryan Fisher of American Family Association says "[vote for Trump] because there is a country to save for our children and grandchildren."

  • JUDSON GODING
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 08:13 pm

    Thank you Marvin. Really well written and I'm thankful for WORLD magazine always, but especially in these days. 

     

  • DGKloost
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 08:57 pm

    Clinton was in office at the time.  The Trump video is 11 years old and some are saying it may have been doctored . 

    These last hour magnified outcries against especially Republican candidates are to be expected. 

    Trump is lacking many basic qualities we wish he had, but I think we have to remember we are not choosing a minister for our congregation.  To some extent the commander-in-chief is going to resemble his electorate.  I am not that optimistic about the moral standards of the general public.  

    All the rest of the contenders dropped out of the race.  No one else has even a reasonable percentage of supporters so why would everyone immediately vote for a better choice if Trump steps down?  Chaos will ensue if he steps down now and Hillary will win for sure.

  • OrthodoxJ
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 09:49 pm

    Well, I have to agree with the WORLD editors here. I really liked Mike Pence's debate preformance as he described why he is pro-life, but these revelations are making it really tough to vote for Trump...the arguments against him are entirely correct. Thank you to WORLD for being such a great source of news, whichever way the election goes.

    :)

  • ROBERT PATIN
    Posted: Thu, 10/13/2016 10:02 pm

    I disagree. Moral ambiguity is everywhere today, but no more so than any period of history for believers when it comes to the governments of this world. By our vote, we are not calling Donald Trump to be our pastor. How morally uncomfortable and distasteful was it for Esther (and Mordecai) in and around the court of King Ahasuerus? Yet the book which bears her name - and never mentions God's - assures us that God had placed her there for "such a time" as that. Perhaps this is not a normal election cycle at all, but rather "such a time" for us. Evil is so real it must not be given free reign if our vote matters - and in a representative republic it does.  

    Eric Metaxas offers a counterpoint:

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/should-christians-vote-for-trump-1476294992?mod=trending_now_1

    Metaxas connects our choices and times to those of Bonhoeffer and Wilberforce. When evil is so near full power, God alone can save a nation. But we may be those he uses.

    Until God is eternally glorified because He wins in the end (Ps. 46:10), may He be glorified by the courageous behavior of His people according to their conscience before Him, no matter what the circumstances or costs. God help us.

    Grace and peace. <><

  • standforTRUTH
    Posted: Tue, 10/25/2016 10:25 pm

    Anonymous,

    Excellent post!  I agree 100%

  • Wayne Asbury
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 12:24 am

    Marvin Olasky's article reminds me of Os Guinness' book "Prophetic Untimeliness."  Prophets don't have the luxury of reporting what people want to hear or can logically agree with, unless the prophet is a false prophet.  They have one duty and that is speaking truth regardless of who it frustrates, hurts, helps, or hinders.  Most if not all of the prophets in the Bible weren't real popular until after they died and poor old John was a voice in the wilderness.  Crowds tended to come and go.  Some may have canceled their memberships or even cried, "Off with his head." But then again the prophet had that one thankless job.  Speaking truth.  It appears that Mr Olasky is one of the prophets not because I like or enjoy what he had to say because sad news is always hard to hear.  But in confusing, morally ambiguous days the sound of a prophetic voice is mighty refreshing. I wonder did Elijah get accused of being self-righteous as he confronted Ahab?  Did Nathaniel say,"Don't worry David you said you were sorry. So your sins shouldn't cost you any support."  No, according to the record Elijah said, "No rain for 3 and 1/2 years."  And innocent people suffered and died because of that terrible drought induced famine. And David's child died and he continued to reap the fruit of his sins for the rest of his life. But then again a prophet's job isn't predicting election results or even figuring out who everybody should vote for. They have to speak truth like Daniel did to Nebuchadnezzar and Joseph and Moses did to the Pharaohs of Egypt.  So did they care what people thought of their message?  Maybe so, but I really doubt it. Prophets can't indulge in luxuries like that.

  • Disciple9290
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 02:29 am

    Your conclusion may be valid, I dont know, but your substantiation is not.  Trumps failure 11 years ago does not necessarily disqualify him today.  A lot of us may not like what we did 11 years ago that we have rejected today.  Would we condemn a faithful member of our church today for something they had done 11 years ago?  (Granted their action years ago was not something they should go to jail for.)   Is Trump still doing today, what this video shows him doing 11 years ago?   Has Trump committed an offense worthy of jail, Clinton has.  To call for Trump to drop out and not ask for Clinton to do same is showing favoritism.  If I were to concede your conclusion, I would still have to say that neither candidate is fit to be our President.  But,  one we know without a doubt, will do evil.  The other will try to do good.  So far you have not persuaded me to not support Trump.  You have not lost me as a reader either.  We should all pray that God leads us, especially the church, to do the right thing.

  • JIM EDWARDS
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 06:09 am

    Thank you. Difficult times, difficult words, difficult choices. We need the Lord's intervention!  It's time to pray for our country like never before. 

  • Im But a Strang...
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 07:32 am

    Dear World, my subscription renewal is on the table before me.

    I voted for another candidate in the Republican primary process.  The time to debate and divide support is among the states' primaries.  The voters of the primary process elected Mr. Trump.  The time to debate is past.  The time to support the Republican candidate is now.  

    In two weeks, I will vote for president.  I will not vote for the Pontifex Maximus of the United States of America.  I will not vote for my spiritual leader.  I will vote for president and for the platform of the Republican Party.  I will vote for Mr. Trump.

    I will not vote for Governor Johnson, or for a Green Party candidate.  I will certainly not vote for Secretary Clinton.  I will vote for Mr. Trump because I do not want any of the aforementioned candidates for president.

    My family put its life on hold to "preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic."  Many other families shed blood to do the same.  The right to vote and participate in the electoral process is too dearly bought to pitch it into darkness.

    My subscription renewal is on the table before me.  I will not need it any longer.

  • Son_of_Issachar
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 09:40 am

    (Longtime World member and will continue to be here)

    Is World also calling for Hillary to step aside?  I do not endorse or defend Trump, but if you agree that the left is destroying this country then not voting for him or sitting this one out is not an option for us.  Hillary's policies and past actions are completely contrary to our worldview.  

    This same line of thought by us Christians to abandon a candidate gave a last minute victory to Barbara Boxer over her opponent in the early 90's. 

  • Jhamilton1
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 10:10 am

    I respect World tremendously.  I probably will vote for the Republican with the best chance to beat Hlillary.  I will however do soul searching.  Thanks for all you do.  I will continue to support World - an unparalleled journal with stellar, fair, balanced,and kind hearted reporting from a Christian worldview. 

  • STEVE STOOKSBERRY
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 10:16 am

    Sorry to read this on Oct 14, it seems a little late.  I suggest World step aside, as well as Evangelical Churches, as non profits so they can say what needs to be said on the front end, not by looking at the rear view mirror.  The Republican party offered several Christian candidates, and from day one the challenge was to get one nominated.  The 'church' could have taken a major position in doing - but there was a big vacuum of silence from the pulpit (and the church showed no willingness to join together across demoninational lines)...all due to the tax consequence as you mention in your article? There seems to be a great hypocrisy here, you can ask Trump to step down, but will not provide a recommendation for the next step or person...are you just unwilling - have our Christian leaders been silenced to speak?  I can be all in for Trump to step down provided there is a clear plan for next.  Non given...There is great concern that Trump did not let us down, we knew from the first debate who he was.  But the big let down was the millions of Christians who were not given greater insight from the pulpit on what was taking place and the importance.  We are left now to pray that God will forgive us and use either of the two flawed candidates to bring about His will for our country.  Neither candidate will be used by their failthful walk or willingly.

  • Peter Allen's picture
    Peter Allen
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 10:17 am

    Third party is the way to go this time.  Gary Johnson is not perfect yet 100X better than the other options.  Most importantly do not fail to vote.  Senators, and congressmen will be the most important aspect of this election regardless of who becomes president, or in case Obama uses the crisis as more is released regarding Hillary to "stay on for our sakes".  He is the first President in decades who plans to stay in D.C.,  .... 

  • ROBERT BROWN
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 11:20 am

    Gary Johnson is 100% pro abortion. Killing of babies is alright with him. 

  • catalystken
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 10:19 am

    Evangelicals and other conservatives who supported Trump early in the process over better men and women because they were scared of the world and angry with the media and good men like Paul Ryan because they are gradualists are getting exactly what they deserve.  I told many of my friends who were Trump supporters that they were playing right into the media's hands as the media knew Trump was the only Republican candidate who Hilary could beat.  Hence all the free access and press he got last winter from CNN, MSNBC, etc..  Do you really think if he was a true conservative they would have given him access to call in whenever he wanted and rip the rest of the Republicans.  It turns out from recent Wiki leaks that Hilary and her team thought exactly the same thing as early as March and were actively rooting for a Trump nomination.  Now these same people complain that the Clintons are just as bad or worse then Trump.  Even if that is true I don’t think a good rallying cry for conservatives and evangelicals in 2016 should be our deplorable non conservative candidate is less deplorable than your liberal candidate.  There were several much better options all who would be comfortably ahead in the polls right now.    It is unfortunate that the legacy they are leaving behind is going to be 4 or more years of a Hilary Clinton presidency.  

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 03:37 pm

    @catalystken - you said "Evangelicals and other conservatives who supported Trump early in the process over better men and women because they were scared of the world and angry with the media and good men like Paul Ryan because they are gradualists are getting exactly what they deserve."

    - it wasn't evangelicals who supported Trump, it was The Tea Party types who got fed up with people like Paul Ryan, who approved Obama's budget that included $500 MILLION for Planned Parenthood. Maybe next time it will gradually be reducted to $400 MILLION ?

  • follower
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 10:27 am

    I have lost patience with Trump.  Your comments pushed me over the edge.  I know that my vote will help Hillary, but I think I am going to write in a vote for Marco Rubio.  I just need to state publically that I want character not just an anti-establishment candidate.   This may be a way to encourage Rubio to try four years from now.

    I just finished reading John 17:20-29.  In this prayer of Jesus, He calls for his followers to have a love for Him which is compared to His love for His Father.  It is a love which is to demonstrate that God has acted in this world and brought His son to the world.  That prayer calls for a commitment to holiness.  There is no way after reading what God is calling me to that I can just ignore Trump's abuse of God's commands on treating women.

    I also just read of George Washington's faith.  How far we have fallen ethically, even though as a nation, we have grown in economic power.

     I suspect the tapes and now the NY Times allegations were timed to destroy Trump.  I have just read of how Clinton sent information about Iraq on unsecured mail to John Podesta in violation of security laws.  I suspect the timing of these comments will hide Hillary's violations. 

    Clearly, this election is a choice between two unfit candidates. I also suspect it is too late for Trump to give up and his arrogance is too great for him to do it, but I still will support your call to back down.

  • TWH
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 02:01 pm

    I will be writing in Ben Sasse for just that reason. World had a very good interview with him recently.

    https://world.wng.org/2016/09/ben_sasse_a_reformed_reformer

     

     

  • Ron W
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 10:28 am

    Marvin and anyone else calling for any change of candidate. There's far more at stake than "your" or "World's" reputation here. Make no mistake, it is literally for our country and for our life and everything we know to be good in this world.   

    I will say nothing more. 

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 03:38 pm

    @RonW - agreed.

  • charles jandecka
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 10:29 am

    I am not a Trumpter ...

    World is completely ignorant of the God's machinations in human affairs! Perhaps it should review Sampson's story. His birth a divine appointment, he went ot to judge Israel for 20 years. It was a record of property damage, killing and insaitiable sex. When his brothers eventually retrieved a mangled Sampson, they had no idea he would one day be mentioned in God's list of faith who's who.

    World has foolishly tramped into an area reserved for a holy God to wander. Look out!!

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 03:39 pm

    @Charles - agreed. World is unfit to make political predictions, and in fact unfit to predict how God would use Trump.

  • JavaCyn
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 10:30 am

    It is too late for "stepping aside and leaving room for another candidate."  Sort of like closing the front door after the cat has escaped. The ballots for the November General election have already been printed.  Americans overseas and in states with early voting have already voted. Since we know Clinton is pro-abortion, pro-open borders, sides with the Muslim Brotherhood and other radical islamic groups, dishonest and a liar of monumental proportions (and this is just the short list), this leaves me with no choice except to vote for Trump. Your article, suggesting an improbable solution, falls short.

  • DON HERRICK
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 10:37 am

    God bless you!  It's high time a prominent evangelical leader wrote what you wrote.  I hate hypocrisy.  But it's not Trump who's hypocritical; he's just what he's always claimed to be.  The hypocrisy is with those Christians who called for Bill Clinton's impeachment and who are now giving Trump a pass.

  • Chris Valerie ...
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 10:38 am

    Thank you, once again, World staff, for clearly presenting the issues and humbly presenting the biblical view which challenges all of us to examine the issues from a Christian worldview.  You are indeed a light shining in this dark political landscape and an encouragement to all of us.

    Chris and Valerie Koetting

  • WORLD User 185462
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 10:42 am

    Amen! Keep up the good work World.

     

  • JAMES KNIGHT
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 10:54 am

    With only 25 days until the election, it is way too late to try to run in another Republican candidate even if  Trump would voluntarily step aside, which his over inflated ego would never permit him to do.  The tape reveals nothing  about Trump's character that wasn't apparent from the beginning.  The only thing worse than a Trump presidency would be a Clinton presidency.  It is way too late to abandon the lesser of two very evil choices.  I will sadly vote for Trump because the only alternative is a more evil Clinton.

  • williamson
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 11:09 am

    By the time this hit my inbox Fri.14.Oct.16 we're at 3.5 weeks from election day. To chartacterize your call for Trump to step aside at this point as last minute is understatement. So much to say about this, but who wants to read any more Christian angst about this election? 

    I'm marking my ballot for Trump on Tu.08.Nov.16. I don't support him. Never have. He alineated me from the get-go with his absurb remark about the worthiness of McCain's military service as a POW. But the alternative in Clinton is unthinkable. And neither 3rd party candidate is qualified, nor do any conceiveable write-ins have a snowball's chance. 

    The only thing Trump has going for him is that he's a complete unknown in elective office. Clinton is an ironclad guarantee that infanticide will continue unabated & the LGBT agenda will become, if it isn't already, the norm. The same may happen under Trump, but only the living God knows before the fact. 

    Why is Trump's trash talk about women the 'last straw'? Where was WORLD's & the Christian community's call for him to step aside not made when he said he had never asked God for forgivenss while at the same time claiming to be a Christian. Say what? This is irreconciilable. Where's the 'last straw' thinking at this expression of chutzpah? Is this not an affront to the living God? If we're rank ordering sins, is such a statement not quite of the magnitude of trash talking women? 

    I''m not an apologist for Trump. I'm not downplaying the gravity of his comments about women. But to paraphrase 'ragin' cajun' Carville, it's the culture, stupid. Neither Trump nor Clinton are the problem. Rather, it's a thoroughly secularized culture that gives rise to such thoroughly unqualified, unworthy candidates. And some (many?) Christians have particpated in securing his nomination. How did our culture get to where we are, and what's the Church of the living God & His people called to do about it? Why are more than a few Chrsitians embracing Trump and making a false messiah of him? These are issues the Christian community should be investing its time and energy praying about and pondering rather than making an 11th hour call for Trump to step aside. 

    If Trump were to miraculously heed WORLD's, or somebody's, call to drop out, what's the editors' plan for anointing a new republican candidate? The party simply invites Pence to step up? Does that respect the process of selecting the head of the ticket? 

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 03:42 pm

    @Williamson - totally agree.

  • Katie
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 11:18 am

    Williamson makes some excellent points in his comment. This issue is far from over or settled and thank goodness God is in control, because we the people clearly don't know what we're doing.

  • williamson
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 11:27 am

    Amen & amen & amen.

  • One of Many
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 11:26 am

    Spot on.  This is a mind-bender of hypocrisy... we want to install moral judges via an immoral man.   What could possibly be said when Eli's sons proceed to defile the temple? 

  • jrmbasso's picture
    jrmbasso
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 11:29 am

    Thank you WORLD for your challenging editorial. One phrase from it states that people will disappoint. In this editorial you have disappointed me. You call for Trump's withdrawal but you could have argued for Clinton's withdrawal with the same force also. But you chose not to. I find that puzzling! Would not the withdrawal of both be more likely to throw the Electoral College into a situation that would yield a better result than our current prospect. Both candidates are deplorable and neither is indwelled with the Holy Spirit so that they might be filled with the knowledge of God's will as they govern  (Colossians 1: 9-12).  But God is sovereign and just like He named the pagan Cyrus to free His chosen people He has a plan to use His church to bring Him glory. I will continue to pray for God's wisdom on how to vote because I believe as a citizen I should vote. Another disappointment is why prayer was only mentioned once in your editorial. 

  • jclark53
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 11:31 am

    On the issue of sexual misbehavior I think both candidates are equal: Trump (assuming the allegations are correct) and Hillary (for supporting and enabling Bill.) Either take that issue out of the campaign and judge them based on other factors, or ask both to resign. I'm very disappointed on this editorial and think you didn't consider it carefully.

  • LindaJoM
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 11:38 am

    World, if you call on Trump to resign from the ticket because of how he "views power as a means to gratify himself,” then you should call for Clinton to do the same. She has used power to gratify herself and manipulate Americans to her desired purposes. Trump’s noted deeds may be uglier in our eyes, but when compared to Clinton’s lying, they are equally sins.

  • Sam Powell
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 11:58 am

    What an indictment on our country, to have two candidates that are the face of Americas greatest sins,  Hilary the face of abortion and Trump the face of Pornography!  - Time for Christians to stop looking at Washington for answers.

  • Nujoy
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 12:27 pm

    I was saddened when I read the article by MarvinO.  World mag. has assumed the position of making a judgement call against many deeply committed believers who pray and hear the voice of the Holy Spirit.

    The Scripture states  :All of have sinned"  excusing no one.  Do any of us know his heart except God?

    I continue to support World Mag and wonder if you meant to insult those of us  who by disageeing witth you, would no longer support you. Sad.

     

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    heartafterGod
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 12:45 pm

    Amen! I agree wholeheartedly!

  • LivingH2O
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 01:02 pm

    Pitiful. Marvin Olasky has blown it with this article. How can I continue to take this magazine seriously after such a heavy-handed hack job? To suggest that the position World took in the immediate wake of the Clinton scandal is equivalent to this call to step down after an 11 year old video recording of words spoken by a much younger and much less wise Trump, about something he may have done who knows how long before that, is RIDICULOUS in the truest sense of the word. Marvin Olasky's true colors are showing here. This is not an article by an ardent defender of the cross. This is a moralistic political manifesto by the chief editor of a heretofore trusted news publication. Voting for Trump is not an endorsement of all the actions of the man any more than any vote for anybody would be. Voting for Trump, who is running as a Republican, is a vote for a platform that, given the flow of the current political tide and the electability of the two strongest contenders, most closely aligns to our morality as Christians and has the best chance of promoting it in the land. I'll be thinking long and hard about canceling my subscription because of this calculated regrettable move by Olasky and World. What a shame that even World has given up on solid reporting and turned to politics. Time to step aside indeed.

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 03:46 pm

    @LivingH20 - totally agree. Marvin didn't learn his lesson when is pride got in the way as architect of George W Bush's "compassionate conservatism". He got chewed up and spit out then by the press.

    World et al are running scared of the NYT calling them hypocrites.

  • determineddeborah
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 01:11 pm

    I am troubled that World Magazine would only ask one of the candidates to step down, when BOTH candidates are clearly unfit for power. Seems like a biased double standard to me. People are looking to Christian leaders for direction on how to biblically vote given the whole counsel of Scripture. If someone were to stumble upon this article and not read it closely, they may decide to vote for Clinton based on the headline alone.

  • Bill Taylor
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 01:31 pm

    The Washington Post warns us about Hillary: you should read it all.

    In a speech not long before she launched her 2016 presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton made a stunning declaration of war on religious Americans. Speaking to the 2015 Women in the World Summit, Clinton declared that “deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed.”

    Religious beliefs have to be changed? This is perhaps the most radical statement against religious liberty ever uttered by someone seeking the presidency. It is also deeply revealing. Clinton believes that, as president, it is her job not to respect the views of religious conservatives but to force them to change their beliefs and bend to her radical agenda favoring taxpayer-funded abortion on demand.

    This is the context in which we must read a recently released trove of emails — which, according to WikiLeaks, come from the accounts of Clinton staff — showing the rampant anti-Catholic bigotry that permeates Clinton World.

  • SUSAN FORDHAM
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 01:33 pm

    Very disappointed in World.  This article will help to ensure that we become a country that includes Sharia law and Christian persecution.  

  • TWH
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 02:14 pm

    This election has brought me into familiarity with the term "consequentialism" - essentially, "the end justifies the means." That has long been standard operating procedure for liberals, but now we see it in bold print among conservatives, including Evangelical leaders.

    I can find nowhere in Scripture that God gives any support whatsoever to that philosophy, but admit that I am as tempted by it as others. It's important for us to remember God's sovereignty and the fact that he simply asks us to be true to his Word. That can be very difficult, but it is the only safe path.    

  • MARK OLSON
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 02:26 pm

    I have decided that the only candidate I can support is Darrell Castle - he is the Constitutional candidate - he is not on every ballot but he can be written in with his running mate Scott Bradley on every state ballot in the USA - look at the Constitution party - the democrats and republicans have become one in the same and they offer choices that are dismal to say the least.

    I know many will say you are thowing your vote away by supporting a third party - our vote is not like a lottery ticket! We don't have to support the winner. We as Christians should support someone who reflects our values. I will admit I have voted republican in every election except one because of the pro-life stand. I will support local candidates who support pro-life - but Trump is not fit in any way to be president (Hillary is not either) - so third party. The other two major third party Jill Stien and Gary Johnson are not pro-life - only one running is - Darrell Castle. Please look over the Constitution Party's Platform - The first line in their preamble states "The Constitution Party gratefully acknowledges the blessing of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ as Creator, Preserver and Ruler of the Universe and of these United States. We hereby appeal to Him for mercy, aid, comfort, guidance and the protection of His Providence as we work to restore and preserve these United States." Their platform is Christ centered and Constitution supportive. 

    Mark Olson

  • DWayne
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 02:41 pm

    I want to applaud Jeff Jentgen's several posts of today. We need him to bring sanity to whomever is struggling with the apparent aftermath of World's very biased "non-endorsement.

    Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 11:47 pm

    I´d suspect that if virtually any presidential candidate during our lifetime had to undergo the scrutiny of the world of 2016 (internet, ubiquitous cameras, zero respect for privacy, a media that has turned into a mob against Mr. Trump,  etc.)....I´d suspect that every one of those past candidates would suffer "revelations" similar to what has been revealed about Donald Trump. Not only past presidential canditates, but most of us here would be in trouble if we had the lens on us for all these years as had Trump.  Though I´m sure WORLD´S editors voted in elections of the past, and I´m sure WORLD´s editors don´t jettison friends because of a colorful past. 

    Donald Trump is a good man with a big mouth.  We´ve all had friends like him.  They´re a pain in the butt, but when it´s money time, they come through...and they´re very loyal.  Everybody who knows Trump personally  vouches for his character.

    I read somewhere recently where WORLD does not endorse candidates.  But WORLD decides to, in effect, break that rule at a time when our nation is in a state of self immolation, where sin and tyranny are dominating, and growing.  Where if Clinton is elected the trend will continue at an even higher velocity.  Vexing.

    Trump is far from perfect.  Trump carries huge risks.  But with the risk comes a high potential upside.  He is a fighter who is not under the spell of political correctness and thus is one in a million who has the guts to make the changes needed.  I also sense he is a man who seems to have been triggered by this campaign into growing spiritually and intellectually, a growth that could continue into a Trump presidency.

    I´m going to hang with him.  He´s going up against the whole world, he has been treated more unfairly than any political candidate in history, ...it´s not even close.  But he keeps battling hard.  I respect that and have developed a respect for the man I did not have some months ago. 

    It´s very disappointing that the one news source I´ve come to trust has made this decision.  I could see not voting for Trump, but to try and influence others to not vote for him, and thus elect a point person for all that is corrupt and  dirty in  America in 2016.....that´s almost unforgivable.

    A horrible decision WORLD magazine.

    Posted: Wed, 10/12/2016 12:08 am

    Hillary Clinton wants to force me to spend my money on abortions.  If I refuse she wants to put me in jail for my refusal.  She wants to do the same to all of us.  Mobs are tearing across the American terrain,, burning, looting, having good men fired from positions because these good men believe in heterosexual marriage, chasing good people off college campuses, demanding Christians not only tolerate the mobs´ agendas, but that Christians support the mobs´ agendas.  Police (who represent the best that is us) are under a vicious societal attack , an attack that threatens their existence as our support against anarchy,.... Hillary Clinton supports the mobs and piles on against the police.  Religious freedom and freedom of conscience in general is under attack, the bad guys are winning on this front.  Hillary Clinton is one of the 4 star generals leading this attack against religious liberty.  Genocide is taking place internationally, Christians are some of the main victims.  The forces promulgating this genocide want to kill us all.  Hillary Clinton will continue to pander to these forces and set the table for the genocides to continue.....and set the table for immense violence to be promulgated on Americans on American soil in the years to come. Etc.

    But Donald Trump was caught speaking like a male speaks, or at least speaking like most men have spoken at one time in their lives. And for this WORLD magazine chooses to single him out for chastisement,  throw him under the bus ........

    .....and clear the way for HIllary Clinton to continue the evil mentioned above.

    Vexing to the 3rd power.

    Because I Think          Posted: Tue, 10/11/2016 11:51 pm

    You can't be serious. Have you people never walked among the common man. What is a sexual predator? A man seeking to have sexual intercourse with a beautiful woman. The country is full of them. You honestly believed before this that Donald Trump never lusted after beautiful women. Is it so unacceptable because he talked about it in a private conversation? Do you honestly believe the hearts of all the other Republican nominees in the past several decades were so much purer, or you just believe the country is better run by white washed tombs? We are not electing Miss Christianity. We are electing a chief executive officer for the country. I argued strongly against Donald Trump during the primary season, but at this point we have only two options. This recording changes nothing. I continue to see Donald as much more genuine, and reverent toward the values that made America great, than our other choice, a known traitor.

  • TOM&DARLENE TIBBETTS
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 03:11 pm

    From Gary Bauer: Imagine for a moment that Hillary Clinton wins and becomes president. Let me give you some idea of what we will be facing in the next four years.

    Christian universities will be required to provide housing for homosexual students.

    Christian elementary and secondary schools, along with churches, will be forced to accommodate the left's demands or risk losing their tax-exempt status because their views on human sexuality will be defined as bigotry toward "sexual minorities."

    Churches and other religious institutions will be required to subsidize abortions. The Obama Administration attempted to do that and we stopped them by one vote. Justice Scalia is now enjoying his eternal reward in Heaven. But if Hillary wins, he will be replaced by a pro-abortion appointee.

    All taxpayers, Christians included, will be forced to pay for abortions and other procedures.

    There will be increasing pressure to ban religious displays in the public square.

    The ripping out of all vestiges of Christianity in the United States military will be completed in her first term. If chaplains are permitted, they will be government-approved, politically correct chaplains who put Caesar before God.

    If you are a Christian who believes you have a moral duty to protect your family, your right to own a gun will be taken away.

    My friends, this is not hyperbole. In every example above, I provided links to news stories. Read for yourself what the left is trying to do NOW. Imagine what would happen if Democrats control the White House, the Supreme Court and Congress.

    To any conflicted Christian voter: I can't guarantee that you will like everything Donald Trump does if he is elected. But I can guarantee that you will like NOTHING Hillary Clinton does.

    Has Trump sinned? Of course. We can say with certainty that Trump has sinned, as you have and as I have. Thus the need for the suffering on the Cross.

    Will Hillary Clinton sin if elected? Yes. But here is the difference: She will devote every ounce of power she has to ripping out every influence in society that believes there is such a thing as sin and that there are reliable standards of right and wrong.

    A Christian who cannot see the difference between a candidate who has sinned and yet promises good policies and a candidate who has sinned and promises bad policies has been failed along the way -- either by our educational system, our political leaders or our faith leaders.

    Clinton's Corruption

    There have been rumors before, but Fox News is now adding substance to reports that FBI officials were outraged with Director James Comey's decision to not press charges against Hillary Clinton.

    One source said, "No trial level attorney agreed, no agent working the case agreed, with the decision not to prosecute.

    Another source, described as a "high-ranking FBI official," added, "It was unanimous that we all wanted her [Clinton's] security clearance yanked. . . We were floored while listening to the FBI briefing because Comey laid it all out, and then said 'but we are doing nothing,' which made no sense to us."

    These whistleblowers have an obligation to come forward and Republicans in Congress owe it to the American people to make sure their stories are heard.

    And voters should do everything they can to make sure Crooked Hillary never steps foot in the Oval Office!

  • TOM&DARLENE TIBBETTS
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 03:15 pm

    From Dr James Dobson: “I do not condone nor defend Donald Trump’s terrible comments made 11 years ago. They are indefensible and awful. I’m sure there are other misdeeds in his past, although as Jesus said, ‘Let him who is without sin cast the first stone,’ he said, according to WND.

    “I am, however, more concerned about America’s future than Donald Trump’s past. I wonder about how Bill Clinton’s language stands up in private.”

    Dobson, who initially supported Sen. Ted Cruz for president, explained his support of Trump in response to those who have asked if the candidate’s comments have caused him to withdraw his support.

     

  • GEORGE YAIKO
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 03:18 pm

    Thank you!!  I have never been comfortable with either Trump or Clinton.  That they have become the major party candidates for President says more about the state of the electorate in this country, including Christians, than anything else.  My prayer has been that God would somehow intervene before it is too late.

  • ROBERT TAPPERT
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 03:24 pm

    Yes I believe you are wrong in making this decision to also come out against Trump.  He was not my choice but considering the possibility of having Hillary Clinton in office and what she would do to the Supreme Court which will last for decades to come, I will vote for Trump.  At least he would start by defunding PP of the tax dollars that keep going to them for the killing of unborn babies.  There are many people throughout the ages that God has used to bring about His work in this sin filled world.  You have helped to cause many believers to not vote or vote third party, which will be a vote for Hillary.  None of us are without sin and without the grace of God would be responsible for the judgment on our sins.  Trump has made changes in his life as testified to by many strong believers that he has asked to be with him, guide and pray for him.  None of us upon becoming believers were void of the vulgar ways we had before we became believers.  For most we are on a road of sanctification through the guidance of the Holy Spirit in our lives.  You have judged him before he was able to travel very far down his road of sanctification.  I have been a long time supporter and have used your articles many times in my testimony to others.  I am not sure I can continue to support this magazine any longer.  You have in calling for Trump to step aside given more support to the evil side of liberalism that continues the killing innocents through abortion, because of your sensitivities to this man using vulgar and dispicable language in his past.  You have emboldened the evil that is working in this nation to remove any belief in God, His creation and the beauty of life as He has made it.

     

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    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 03:55 pm

    World doubles down on stepping in front of the Trump Train, that, um, God ordained. Five top article #NeverTrump for 24 hours straight, and bringing out article authors from the back room.

    Look at the situation - World Magazine stands arm in arm with the NYT, Washington Post, Huffington Post, The Atlantic, The Daily Beast, etc etc. 

    Politics is a contact sport, and politics is about winning. So the left has set the standard for the Christians / conservatives - now ANY CANDIDATE WHO HAS EVER SINNED WILL BE SHREDDED.

    It's all classic Alinsky tactics, and I cannot remember one article about this. "Freeze, Isolate, and destroy". Also, I haven't seen any articles on the Frankfurt School - you might want to look that up. While you're at it, check out the Communists 100 year plan in this trailer of "AGENDA: Grinding America Down." It's pretty scary.

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 03:58 pm

    Let me remind World and the Hallelujah readers here: Paul Kengor, professor at Grove City College, back in 2004 or so, got archives from the Cold War, and started writing a book. By 2008, what he found was a trail of associations that led straight to . . . Barack Obama. He said it was "chilling". When his book was published, they started getting on his case because they said he was a "racist", and was just out to get the black man. So Prof. Kengor had to prove via his (non-deleted) emails that he had just started a book and went where the evidence led.

    And this is what World is ushering in.

  • paul49
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 04:04 pm

    I don't know where to start. This is so wrong at every level. Let's see, I have a tape of Marvin Olasky stating his anti-christian beliefs and pro pagan beliefs before he became a Christian and now it is made public. I think for the good of World Magazine and the entire sensitive Christian world that he should step down from his positon . Ridculous correct? Yet a tape emerges from 11 years ago about men talking about women in a PRIVATE conversation and acting like jerks. Wow, did you feel the earth tremble. Could there be any more earth shaking news than this? Please grow up and don't act as though you are all above this. He who is without sin, cast the first stone. Trump was pro-choice 11 years ago and I am pretty sure he thought homosexual marriage was ok. Look at the man now, he has accepted Christ, there is no doubt he still needs the milk of the word at this time, but he has changed his position to pro-life and marriage between a man and a woman. Positions not particulary popular in todays world if attempting to become the President of the United States. Trump was publically humiliated by the release of the tape and has apoligized to his family, friends and the citizens of the USA. Remember they were just words and not actions.He stands for a strong military and borders, law and order, lowering taxes on the average tax payer and for corporations which will stop them from leaving America and will create jobs. Trump said he would help the Mid-eastern Christians who are being genocided right now in real time. He said he will bring back Merry Christmas to the White House, might sound trivial to some but in this day of anti-Christian sentiment it is HUGE. Trump will appoint Supreme Court justices who are constitutionalists, who will preserve our religious liberty. Don't you get how BIG that is? The other side will appoint justices who will be anti-Christian and pro-homosexual and pro-islam. My first choice was Senator Cruz. I now support Trump because of his positions. Trump is not a politician and is far from perfect and definitely rough around the edges but he is the best we have to choose from. How many imperfect people did God use? Do you think Mike Pence would stay with a man like Trump if he really thought he was not a changed man, I don't think so. So you and Joel and the rest of the staff at World get off your high horses and your perfection test and pray to the Lord to ask HIM if this is the man he has sent to straighten out the USA at this time. I am truley disappointed in ALL of you for doing this but I am not cancelling my subscription as I think you ALL have the heart of God in mind EXCEPT your decision about Mr. Trump. I realize in the end that the Lord will put in power who He wants for his ends and my faith is in Christ alone but He expects us to do our part and be faithful to HIM alone. Please reconsider and look at the BIG picture the LORD is showing all of us and endorse Trump. Grace and Peace, Paul Piazza.

  • William Peck 1958's picture
    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 07:44 pm

    @Paul - very well said. 

  • Karrie Pope
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 04:14 pm

    Sadly, I believe that many people throwing stones and plucking specks here are the very same people that have talked about women in crass and defaming ways in a locker rooms or other areas that are testosterone filled. Or perhaps their own list filled minds? Donald Trump was just caught red handed on tape. Was anyone surprised really? I don't think so. I appreciate the sentiment here. Really I do. I've tried many times to talk myself into voting for Trump knowing what is at stake and I cannot, in good conscience do so. But the people have spoken haven't they? As much as I disagree and wish things were not so, aren't we reaping what we have sewn all these years? Praise the Lord for our hope is not in our nation or judges or president! 

  • LivingH2O
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 04:19 pm

    Pitiful! Marvin Olasky has blown it with this article. How can I continue to take this magazine seriously after such a heavy-handed hack job? To suggest that the position World took in the immediate wake of the Clinton scandal is equivalent to this call to step down after an 11 year old video recording of words spoken by a much younger and much less wise Trump, about something he did who knows how long before that, is RIDICULOUS in the truest sense of the word. Marvin Olasky's true colors are showing here. This is not an article by an ardent defender of the cross. This is a moralistic political manifesto by the chief editor of a heretofore trusted news publication. Voting for Trump is not an endorsement of all the past actions of the man any more than any vote for anybody would be. Voting for Trump, who is running as a Republican, is a vote for a platform that, given the flow of the current political tide and the elect-ability of the two strongest contenders, most closely aligns to our morality as Christians and has the best chance of promoting it in the land. I'll be thinking long and hard about canceling my subscription because of this calculated regrettable move by Olasky and World. What a shame that even World has given up on solid reporting and turned to politics. Time to step aside indeed.

  • beep523
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 04:31 pm

    Trump's incident was deliberately released by the media in a perceived attempt to cause the loss of the Christian vote for Donald Trump. Whether these voters vote for Hiliary or one of the third party candidates or don't vote at all, the dems do not care. But they must stop the possible election of Donald Trump by any and all means. I doubt they are finished with their attempts. The problem is they will succeed to some extent because Christians will use their sense of decency to vote instead of seeking God's Will in this election. It has been said that the end-time church will either learn to hear the Lord's voice or it will give in to the devil's desires by default. I think we are seeing this concept play out in the election. May we wake up before the challenges get worse and very few believers are left standing (Mt. 24). Logic cannot be used because we do not see all things as God does. So only those who hear His Voice and are obedient to it will endure until the end of the age. And, yes, World staff, that includes you, too.

  • Karen for Life
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 04:37 pm

    I have been praying for weeks, that God would provide an honorable Republican to replace Trump--unlikely as you say, but God might in His mercy and grace engineer such a feat.  Nothing too difficult for Him.  

    I had a new thought today. In the that case God does not answer my plea, I see the Senate as the main brake on the Presidency, if it is willing. Another way to view the election is that we are electing the 101st Senator (the Vice President who presides and is the tie-breaker) as well as the President.  Who that 101st is matters hugely!  Maybe, I can vote for that Senator (VP Pence) while holding the barf bag while voting for the ticket.

  • ROBERT BROWN
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 08:32 pm

    Karen for Life - I am with you on voting for the President of the Senate, Mike Pence. 

     

  • Allen Johnson
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 04:44 pm

    It seems from the Patristic writings that the early church of the first couple centuries did not participate in many of the Roman offices and positions including the military and magistrate offices. They abstained from "the sword" and its power even though they did not try to make the Roman government pacifist.
    Today, in different political situation, we might consider not voting for a president this round as an act of faithfulness. One could still vote for local political offices, state offices, etc.

     

  • TWH
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 08:16 pm

    Such a different situation today. I think it's important to register a vote because otherwise it appears that we aren't involved or concerned.  I plan to write in Tom Hoefling of America's Party. He has a clear and consistent Christian testimony and was very knowledgeable in an interview on the Iron Sharpens Iron podcast.  

  • standforTRUTH
    Posted: Wed, 10/26/2016 12:49 am

    With all due respect, Allen Johnson; I feel compelled to ask you a rhetorical question in response to your post:  Do you value the current freedoms you enjoy?  They were fought for by human beings who bled real, life sustaining blood and even gave their lives to give you the freedom to ruminate over "not voting for a president this round as an act of faithfulness".  However pious your intent, to compare the current situation before us with that of the early church under the authority of the pagan Roman Empire is, I believe a faulty premise.  We are in the fight of our lives to retain a constitutional republic that was founded as "One nation, under God".  I believe the freedoms we have enjoyed in this country were God given and "to whom much is given, much is required".  While not voting may make you feel you are taking some kind of moral high ground consider this:  The reason the early church "did not participate in many of the Roman offices and positions including the military and magistrate offices" and they "abstained from 'the sword' and its power" is because they were too busy perishing under the blade of that Roman sword, and locked up in Roman dungeons, and being fed to Roman lions and skinned alive by Nero!  "even though they did not try to make the Roman government pacifist."  I find your remarks puzzling and surprising. Have you not read of the persecution of the early church under the Romans?  If you value your freedom; I do not believe you have the luxury to squandor your vote based on a (in my view) self-righteous belief that you are demonstrating your faith.  God gave us eyes to see and a mind to understand.  I implore all believers and followers of Jesus to pick up their Bibles and read them and pray for understanding.  Then, based on God's Word, go and vote for the platform(Democrat vs Republican) that most closely lines up with the Bible.  As others have wisely pointed out, Pence will be the president of the Senate, should the Republican ticket win.  Pence is a solid man of God.  We need to learn what past elections have taught us about Christians not participating in this process.  These are secular positions we are voting for in a secular world and until Jesus comes for us we have to live here and do our best to engage the current culture. That doesn't mean we compromise our personal beliefs or denounce them in any way. Yet at the same time we can't afford to be naive about secular politics and and what is at stake.  And may God have mercy on us all!

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • John Welch
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 09:47 pm

    Marvin is wrong. What else can be said. Few of the politicians we vote for are righteous people. Why is Donald Trump any worse that John Kennedy, or Bill Clinton. Consider how vile and corrupt Hilary Clinton is. Trump's antics are inexcusable, but are they worse than the rest of the bunch in government these days. Not really..

    With the platform World Mag has, if Hilary wins, it's on Marvin's head. For my part, I think it's time to part ways with World Mag. You're not carrying the banner any longer, and you're certainly not standing in the gap.

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    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Mon, 10/17/2016 08:24 am

    @John - totally agree.

  • RMF
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 10:20 pm

    Evan Mcmullin is a fine choice. He's honorable and experienced.

    https://www.evanmcmullin.com/home

     

     

  • Pinto
    Posted: Fri, 10/14/2016 10:23 pm

    I applaud World for putting God first

  • Taffy
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 01:23 pm

    How do you know God's mind on this/. An African American homeschooling mother of 9 asked God for whom He would want her to vote.  She "heard" "You have Nebuchadnezzar and Jezebel.  I say Nebuchadnezzar."  Let's consider Jeremiah 27:6 "I have given all these lands into the hands of Nebuchadnezzar...my servant:", and: Daniel 4:37 "Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and houour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgement: and those that walk in pride he able to abase."  Let's pray and praise God that He is at work.  I am voting and working for God's unlikely looking Nebuchadnezzar.  I've been a Pro-Life lobbyist and political worker for 36 years. Many of the ideas in the comments above sound pretty naive to one who has been in the trenches.  

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    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Mon, 10/17/2016 08:26 am

    @Taffy - yes, the Hallelujah commenters are earnest, but naive.

  • DWayne
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 12:00 am

    Your line drawn in the sand and your call for a different Republican presidential candidate is nothing more than an endorsement of Hillary Clinton. Grow up and face the consequences of your line drawing ... please. Or bether yet, honestly and openly declare your supoort for HC. Admit it. You're all Democrats, and stop pretending.

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    Cyborg3
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 02:25 am

    I am ashamed of World's ungodly stand against Trump for it is foolish and will only lead to Jezebel (Clinton) herself being president of the United States.  Folly is no virtue!  This bombshell should be acknowledged for what it is - a political attack to see Hillary as our next President!  And World mindlessly follows along bringing America to its doom! Again, stupidity is no virtue! Let me remind you of our Lord's warning about shrewdness in the parable of the unjust steward in Luke 16:1-13. "'So the master commended the unjust steward because he had dealt shrewdly. For the sons of this world are more shrewd in their generation than the sons of light.'"  The sons of this world are laughing at you and others for foolishly destroying your own conservative cause which will lead to our nation's destruction! I will vote for Trump because I cannot stand babies being murdered in the mother's womb. I will vote for Trump because I cannot stand seeing little Christian boys and girls tortured, raped and murdered by ISIS because of a corrupt and inept foreign policy.  I will vote for Trump because I don't want to see our religious liberties taken away by homosexual zealots who hate God and His church. I will vote for Trump because I don't want floods of liberal immigrants illegally let in to bring on liberal domination in politics for years to come. I will vote for Trump because I don't want "hate crime laws" that will eliminate me for employment, result in my imprisonment, and shut down our churches.  Trump was not my first choice but I am shrewd enough to know that if Christians fail to vote for Trump, our cause is lost in America.  For that reason I see World an enemy of the moral and godly cause in America - I would never dream that I would say this! 

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    Jeff Jentgen
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 04:17 pm

    Very well said.

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    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Mon, 10/17/2016 08:29 am

    @Cyborg3 - totally agree, I can't believe what World has done. And still today - top 5 articles on politics.

  • Lisa Grosso
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 08:29 am

    I do not doubt that we serve an awesome God who could raise up a fitting candidate in the short time we have left before the election.  In fact, I think He already has:  Mike Pence. 

  • TOM TERRELL
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 12:10 pm

    The Church is divided over: abortion, homosexuality, inerrancy of the Bible, Armenian vs. Calvinism, baptism, creationism vs. evolution, and the list goes on and on.

    The nation is divided over: religions (Christianity, Secular Humanism, Islam), capitalism vs. socialism, languages, interpretation of the constitution and the interpretations of its amendments, man’s part - if any - in climate change, and the list goes on and on.

    Matthew 12:25 And knowing their thoughts Jesus said to them, “Any kingdom divided against itself is laid waste; and any city or house divided against itself will not stand. (NASB)

    Clinton, if elected, will usher in the collapse of both the church and nation. Better get ready for serious judgment. Who knows this may be the big one?

  • SonoitaMike
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 12:37 pm

    I am confused. You state that Mr. Trump should step down for something he confessed to doing and then apologized for doing. I would expect forgiveness. You claim that we shouldn't base our vote on what we are afraid Mrs. Clinton will do yet you say we should not vote  Mr. Trump for what you are afraid he will do. Should we judge you for your past communist ideologies? We don't like having to pick the lesser of two evils but to try and do otherwise is lettering the worst of two evils prevail.

    Welcome to Babylon fellow Daniel's!

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    Cyborg3
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 01:00 pm

    What about unfit for reporting? Embracing the greatest evil is no virtue! In fact it could be called evil!

  • SonoitaMike
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 01:15 pm

    Your comments process is worse than the lines at Disneyland!!!

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    William Peck 1958
    Posted: Mon, 10/17/2016 08:31 am

    @SonoitaMike - AGREED ! it stinks to high heaven !

  • RICHARD WINELAND
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 01:18 pm

    Now that you/ve fallen for the Left's propaganda just who will you vote for?  Donald Trump has committed to appointing conservative justices to SCOTUS, he has stated he will repeal the IRS censorship of free speech in our pulpits, he has appointed  a good man as his VP, and he has raised an exemplary family.  We are not electing a pastor.  This is politics, not a church meeting vetting elders. This is serious and you evidently do not have the discernment to see it.  Maybe that is God's will.

  • Jeanne VanDeWall
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 01:55 pm

    If there was only a way we could vote for Pence and not Trump.

  • Taffy
    Posted: Sat, 10/15/2016 03:49 pm

    How do you know God's mind on this/. An African American homeschooling mother of 9 asked God for whom He would want her to vote.  She "heard" "You have Nebuchadnezzar and Jezebel.  I say Nebuchadnezzar."  Let's consider Jeremiah 27:6 "I have given all these lands into the hands of Nebuchadnezzar...my servant:", and: Daniel 4:37 "Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and houour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgement: and those that walk in pride he able to abase."  Let's pray and praise God that He is at work.  I am voting and working for God's unlikely looking Nebuchadnezzar.  I've been a Pro-Life lobbyist and political worker for 36 years. Many of the ideas in the comments above sound pretty naive to one who has been in the trenches.